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glasshalffull66
glasshalffull66
20. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 1:56 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 1:56 AM EST
"yes and you forgot agant Broyles actually smiles, he is cute."
I liked seeing Broyles smile too. All of the characters played supporting role to Broyles last night and I think that's fine. It was good to get to know his past a little and to see his vunerable side. I liked seeing him take care of business as he needed to e.g., going against the CIA, shooting the coma guy in the head and temporarily stopping dust alien/man.

Also, the short scene between Broyles and his ex-wife was great. Jeeez, you could see how painful the relationship had been.

I thought for an episode that had basically nothing to do with advancing the big/typical storylines, it was pretty good. Of course, now we just have more questions we need to get answers to. So, how long after they broke up did Broyles and Nina Sharp hook up?

And yes, the scene with the kid in the restaurant was too cute!
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dsbnepo
dsbnepo
21. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 3:52 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 3:52 AM EST
"I liked seeing Broyles smile too. All of the characters played supporting role to Broyles last night and I think that's fine. <snip>

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I agree 100% ! Lance Reddick is one hell of an actor. Have you been to his web site ? He's a musician too (I like his stuff.) . I'm so glad they are giving him a bit of a bigger part. Makes him a necessary & vital part of the group. VERY GOOD !.
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#1Fringepedia.net
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22. Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 7:09 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 7:09 AM EST
"I thought TPTB once mentioned that they are not going the outspace alien route? Fringe should be about the alt-universe, NOT aliens.

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Who said anything about aliens. Cosmonauts, like Astronauts take experiments into space. Some because the lack of gravity helps testing, others because of the increased radiation. Sounds like what they were testing really liked to suck up the radiation. Seems like you could have something like that deployed to Chernobyl - to get it back from half-life hell... or use it to suck your enemies nukes dry OR to turn enemy hybrid soldiers from the alt-universe to DUST.
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23. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 7:23 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 7:23 AM EST
"I don't understand what happened in the end... Once he started to breath again... they blasted him off into space??"
Broyles killed the body, but couldn't kill the entity. The entity revived the body - SO - since they can't kill it at all - they sent it into orbit where it can't kill anyone... it gets all of the radiation it needs to live... a hero cosmonaut doesn't have to be destroyed by his own people, and he can do projects and tests for you indefinitely, permanently in orbit. Win - Win
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deja-vu
deja-vu
24. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 12:05 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 12:05 PM EST
Thought episode was O.K., but was hoping for more, after the lay off. Where's the
new agent?? Must be shorthanded now, as Broyles has to go out on raids.
Good to get out of the office. Want to get back to this other universe deal, and see
where it goes in case no season 3. Don't want to be left wondering as happened
with Sarah Conner Terminator.
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kiwilovesfringe!
kiwilovesfringe!
25. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 12:34 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 12:34 PM EST
"Broyles killed the body, but couldn't kill the entity. The entity revived the body - SO - since they can't kill it at all - they sent it into orbit where it can't kill anyone... it gets all of the radiation it needs to live... a hero cosmonaut doesn't have to be destroyed by his own people, and he can do projects and tests for you indefinitely, permanently in orbit. Win - Win"
Oh...so they DID send it off into space...strange...
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FinChase
26. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 12:58 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 12:58 PM EST
This episode seemed sort of out of synch with the rest of the season. I'm guessing it was one of those Fox-mandated standalone episodes. I like the effects of the ash. The woman who crumbled when a fly landed on her was one cool effect, and I liked the backstory on Broyles. However, I prefer the episodes that connect to the mythology of the show, and this one didn't even touch it. I'm hoping that this ep was a bit of filler because of the world series layoff; they weren't even sure when it would air. I'm hopeful for next week's episode. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

InformalGray
27. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 3:21 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 3:21 PM EST
It was cool to see that CIA guy at the end....JR Bourne.....who also played Martouf on Stargate SG1 and had a few roles on Andromeda.

For all the other nerds out there that geeked out when they saw him playing a MIB.
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Plotbunny
Plotbunny
28. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 8:45 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 8:45 PM EST
"Broyles killed the body, but couldn't kill the entity. The entity revived the body - SO - since they can't kill it at all - they sent it into orbit where it can't kill anyone... it gets all of the radiation it needs to live... a hero cosmonaut doesn't have to be destroyed by his own people, and he can do projects and tests for you indefinitely, permanently in orbit. Win - Win"
Isn't the Cosmonaut in a coma? How could he conduct experiments in a coma?
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pier117
29. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 7 2009, 10:34 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 7 2009, 10:34 PM EST
Ok, the CIA agent at the end, what's the actor's name? He looks familiar - some other show. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

InformalGray
30. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 8 2009, 12:11 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 12:11 AM EST
"Ok, the CIA agent at the end, what's the actor's name? He looks familiar - some other show."
JR Bourne, he was on Stargate SG1...played the Tokra Martouf/Lantash
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sac.broyles
sac.broyles
31. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 8 2009, 12:33 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 12:33 AM EST
"Ok, the CIA agent at the end, what's the actor's name? He looks familiar - some other show."
Albeit a short role, I liked him in "13 Ghosts".
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#1Fringepedia.net
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32. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 8 2009, 4:13 AM EST | Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 4:13 AM EST
"Isn't the Cosmonaut in a coma? How could he conduct experiments in a coma?"
No - he returned from space in a coma. His good brother worked in a coma unit. And he was comatose at the hotel when the entity was out of his body and after the child. Remember that he sat up and told his bro to stop the electro-shock treatment. Even in Russian, spoken lines do not equal a state of coma.

If the entity returned to his body, assume that he is not comatose.
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jbehme
33. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 8 2009, 8:57 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 8 2009, 8:57 PM EST
"Help! I had to go to my daughter's choir concert last night and TiVo missed FRINGE because the damn Yankees were still on the schedule. ( oh...How I hate them!) This is my first missed FRINGE episode. I only have the most basic cable from Time Warner. Is there somewhere on the net that I can go to catch up?"
Yeah, BuckeyeMan. Just go to Hulu .com you can find missed episodes on hulu as well as pretty much any show you want to see. The pilot and earlier episodes of any given show are sometimes hard to find, if they still exist.
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jbehme
34. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 8 2009, 9:26 PM EST | Post edited: Monday, 8:49 PM EST
"I'm pretty sure he meant that they killed him. When he looked up I think he was kind of referring to heaven or something."
The cosmonaut corpse was launched into space, to strange new worlds, to boldly (or obliviously) go where no cadaver has gone before. However, from the ending of the episode, we get the idea that the shadow may not have felt like going along and may have decided to hang out here for a while.
The stand alone episode is necessary to bring in new Fringe fans who might feel too lost and never tune in to Fringe otherwise. If they like what they see they'll tune back or watch other episodes on the internet, either way, before they know it ratings will grow and they'll find they've become hopelessly addicted to the crack cocaine of television. "Heh Heh Heh",to quote Snidely Whiplash.
By the way Fringe won in the Thurs night slot! That means people came back or new people jumped in. That's (potentially) wonderful news for all who want Fringe to survive and thrive! And to all the curmudgeons (Weren't there curmudgeons in the Wizard of Oz?) out there; Yeah.I know...Time will tell.
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BuckeyeMan
35. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 9 2009, 3:44 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2009, 3:44 PM EST
"Yeah, BuckeyeMan. Just go to Hulu .com you can find missed episodes on hulu as well as pretty much any show you want to see. The pilot and earlier episodes of any given show are sometimes hard to find, if they still exist."
Thanks...that worked really well. I have added Hulu to my favorites list.
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BuckeyeMan
36. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 9 2009, 4:39 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2009, 4:39 PM EST
We are really left to build bridges on our own to figure out the storyline for this episode. Here's a possible set of expanations:

Somehow, six years ago Koslov stole his brother’s comatose body and transferred it from Russia to a coma ward of a Washington DC hospital where he secured himself a job as a night shift nurse. Fortunately there isn’t a whole lot of activity in a coma ward at night so he was able to use a portable X-ray machine to feed the organism its daily required radiation. After two years, the organism began to get stronger and desire a between meal snack. It began to project himself outside of the brother’s body. Five people were turned into ashes before Koslov realized what was happening.

He secured a similar job in a Boston area hospital and moved his brother to that coma ward. He maintained containment of the organism by shocking his brother’s body repeatedly during the trip. (He may have been able to use relatively minor shocks for the move between Russia and DC.) In the new hospital, he upped the radiation dosage and no further incidents occurred for 4 years. Once again, the organism outgrew its feeding schedule and more hospital visitors were turned to ashes and dust.

He was in the process of transferring his operation to Minneapolis. The organism was now requiring massive amounts of electrical shock to be contained. Koslov got distracted during a conversation with Broyles and the organism snuck up and de-radiated him.

I guess we are left to ponder how Koslov got the chemical formula. If he stole it from the Russians along with his brother, why did he wait two years before requesting help from Broyles? It would be somewhat more consistent with the storyline if he developed the formula during those first two years. What does everyone think about this?

Are there really coma wards in hospitals?
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Plotbunny
Plotbunny
37. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 9 2009, 5:36 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2009, 5:36 PM EST
"No - he returned from space in a coma. His good brother worked in a coma unit. And he was comatose at the hotel when the entity was out of his body and after the child. Remember that he sat up and told his bro to stop the electro-shock treatment. Even in Russian, spoken lines do not equal a state of coma.

If the entity returned to his body, assume that he is not comatose. "
Thanks for the info, I missed that conversation and thus did not realize that the brother was conscious.
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coakleytom
38. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 9 2009, 6:57 PM EST | Post edited: Nov 9 2009, 6:57 PM EST
"I'm pretty sure he meant that they killed him. When he looked up I think he was kind of referring to heaven or something."
I think they launched his body back into space. They shot him in the head and he came back....I'd be concerned that if I vaporized the body the entity would be even more free to feed. If it were my call I'd be tossing him in the general direction of pluto.
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jbehme
39. RE: Episode 2.06 Earthling - After Show Chatter
Nov 9 2009, 7:13 PM EST | Post edited: Monday, 8:54 PM EST
BuckeyeMan,
In answer to your question about coma wards in hospitals: I've worked in hospitals for a lot of years, and I've never heard of coma wards. First, at least in my experience, wards are areas where there are more than 3 beds. they're usually large rooms. Even what were called maternity wards are now usually called maternity floors or labor and delivery, (or is that a shipping and receiving dock full of unskilled grunts? :D) Comatose pts. are usually in either intensive care or a regular med/surg floor (especially,but not in all cases, terminal pts.)
Those who've been comatose for a long time usually transfer to long term care facilities.
Like plotbunny, I thought the guy was dead after Broyles was able to show him the error of his ways, but then, I found your filling the gaps quite intelligent, insightful and plausible, so now you've forced me to watch the instant replay of that episode. (You'll not be charged with a time out if after reviewing the replay, the current ruling on the field is overturned in your favor.)
: D
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