Discussion: Bell pulled Olivia out of a moving car?!?!?!?!?!

"Your theory makes sense however it is purely speculative. Is there discussion of carbon copies or is this a theory you have concocted? And if your theory is true would there not be a carbon copy of William Bell in our universe? "

"Is Olivia #2 in William Bell's universe now? Does she have all the knowledge Olivia #1 has? Why was there no indentation in the car on the seat? Is the Carbon Copy not a physical being?"

"Hey guys, my friend and I need some serious help. William Bell says to Olivia, We have a problem, I pulled you out of a moving car. This lead to what we saw in the season premiere of Olivia flying through the car windshield when she came back over. However, if we're not mistaken (and we haven't gone back to watch the season 1 finale so we may be) Olivia was never in a moving car. Was she not waiting in a restaurant where she was to meet Billy but he was a no show. She left the restaurant and got into an elevator with numerous other people and then she was in a elevator by herself. She got off and was taken to Bell's office. So please help me if I'm not recalling the events correctly but Olivia never got into a moving car right? Is this a plot hole that nobody is willing to discuss or that everybody missed? Or do I need to do my homework and rewatch the season 1 finale?"

"Thanks to the.other your explantions help for sure, but big thanks to gil_cdn for finding that interview! The interview confirms what the.other was talking about for the most part and it definetly gives a clear explantion of what happened and more specifically WHEN it happened. Can't wait to get my DVD's back from my friend so I can re-watch the finale. Thanks to everyone who posted!"

"The people disappearing in the elevator was a perceptual time shift -- the people got off the elevator earlier. Why didn't Billy show up at the restaurant? He wasn't suppose to meet her in "the other world", he probably did show up in this world. When was she taken? As "Drauphnir" said, when she swerved to avoid the car. There is no carbon copy insertion bla bla bla. How would he do that? A "carbon copy" refers to a person in one world/dimension that is the same as the person in another. It's a mirror image, with some differences, of our world. Though "carbon copies" would not have to exist. Example: If JFK had more children in the other dimension, where he lives longer, there would not be a carbon copy of those children here. Because "here" he died."

"OK - Im in Oz and havin just recently discovered Fringe .. Ive watch season 1 and that so far of season 2 in a week - thus Ive got a far more fresh memory ... thus Notime .. my rhoughts co - inside with yours. Its like 'sliding doors'... In one reality/universe Olivia manages to miss the car ... and thus what proceeds is a long wait for Nina Shaw/ Bells .. in another reality Olivia is pulled out of the car before she can swerve .. thus the crash and the crude transition - the elevator sequence is similar to a jetlag -"

"I discovered Fringe on our (Canada's) Thanksgiving weekend, and I've become completely obsessed with it- so three weeks now! Now watching the dvd for the second time around, and have drawn up a list of all the things Walter mentions in the different episodes that point to when Peter came over,and how. So welcome, I'm so glad to see new people finding the show! Isn't it amazing?? As well as all the original fans, who have started some great threads here and thankfully kept the show going for renewal. You know you have the Fringe bug pretty bad when your wallpaper on your computer at work shows a Fringe shot, like mine does! lol

i do have to say that from the interview that gil_cdn posted, it was always one Olivia only that we see; she thought she was supposed to go to the meeting, so she continues to the restaurant, but she's already in the alt world. I think it is our universe Nina who sets up the meeting, which was clever of the writers, because alt-Nina is 'away out of the country' when Olivia phones her, and so the real Olivia can meet at MD headquarters. And interesting that William knew it was our Olivia, and not alt-Olivia, meeting with him, so I wonder, is there something different between the two Olivia's, like with the two Charlies? "

"I went back and watched the near miss and you actually hear a crash at the appropriate time even though she swerved around the car. I thought that was interesting.

Also, Will'am explains about the perception shifts she keeps experiencing - originally I thought the flashes in the elevator were Olivia switching to Earth2 (as I've started calling it) but now they appear to just be these shifts of perception."