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rainbowsix_chic_2010
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40. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 10:52 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 10:52 PM EDT
"she could have gone into the alternate reality when she was on the elevator because their was the blue flash and all of a sudden people appeared and disappeared."
That's what I'm thinking, but who really knows? It could have been the car thing too though. Because, first of all, why else would the car have even been important? There's a reason for everything in this show, which means there was a reason for that car scene. Second of all, when she was waiting for Nina Sharp, the waitress said that she was "out of town." Which means she never went there to meet Nina and Nina already knew that.
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41. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 10:53 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 10:53 PM EDT
maybe the second William bell is Walter.

that actually is not logical, but it could happen.
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42. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 10:55 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 10:55 PM EDT
i wonder why her bags were packed then?
because the is a scene where she is sitting on her bed with a suitcase.

very strange.

they made it seem like it took place in the elevator because of the blue flash and it seemed like she was traveling between two of the "windows"
who knows.

I'm pretty sure the war that is always described is going to be between the two alternate universes when the somehow reach "equilibrium"
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Woolyworm
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43. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 10:58 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 10:58 PM EDT
The FBI doesn't know that A Peter Bishop died way back when?..... I don't know if I like the "there can be as many as we want" fall back plan.... Anything they show can now be either reality? Oooh, Jones is dead! Now he's not! He's dead again..... If there are infinite realities, there must be infinite other Walters/Peters/Olivias....Just seems a bit of a cop out to me... but I'm bitter over Life on Mars I guess.....

Did Walter get 'permission' from the other parents to take Peter? I don't see how, after he felt the terrible loss of his son, that Walter would do that to another parent....

Still doesn't explain the Observer. The best idea out there is he's a referee of sorts.... but we still don't know who the enemy is then.....
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JaiJie
44. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 10:58 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 10:58 PM EDT
You know, if our Walter took alternate-Peter from Alternate-Walter, Shouldn't A-W be sorta PO'd and is it possible he might come into our reality to, you know, take back his son?

(And I don't think the gravestone surprised anyone. Me and my brother totally called it at the same time)
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45. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:05 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:05 PM EDT
yeah, i was defiantly predicting the gravestone.
where else would Walter be from if hes not from an alternate universe.

Just think back to the episode (the arrival) when he has a "moment" with the observer and the observer knows exactly what hes going to say.
that could be somehow related to how hes from a different universe.
SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS!
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Tyraid
46. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:13 PM EDT
Anyone else get the feeling that Nina is from the alternate reality? Maybe her and Bell switched places for his safety?
- Really advanced cybernetic arm
- Had a "special" team brought in to fix it after Jones tried to shoot her
-Set up Olivia to meet Bell, but when Oliva call her, she was told that Nina was "out-of-town" the same excuse Nina kept giving about Bell
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47. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:19 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:19 PM EDT
"oh, crap. I forgot about that!! :( That's okay though. That just means more fun!!!!

Oh, yeah, forgot to mention this: sadly, Walter did not have a food this episode. Not that he mentioned, at least. Astrid did mention that she had Berry Boom for him in the end. *sigh* I thought his fascination with food would last......."
PANCAKES (it was Pancake that help him to find the "dial" to plug the hole between dimension)
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48. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:21 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:21 PM EDT
"yeah, i was defiantly predicting the gravestone.
where else would Walter be from if hes not from an alternate universe.

Just think back to the episode (the arrival) when he has a "moment" with the observer and the observer knows exactly what hes going to say.
that could be somehow related to how hes from a different universe.
SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS!"
I was theorizing that last Thursday ..... see thread here:
http://fringewiki.fox.com/thread/2801995/Spolier+for+ep.1.20+Season+finale

I feels good to guess right!
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thewhitewilsmith
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49. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:22 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:22 PM EDT
"Anyone else get the feeling that Nina is from the alternate reality? Maybe her and Bell switched places for his safety?
- Really advanced cybernetic arm
- Had a "special" team brought in to fix it after Jones tried to shoot her
-Set up Olivia to meet Bell, but when Oliva call her, she was told that Nina was "out-of-town" the same excuse Nina kept giving about Bell"
I think that's just what Massive Dynamic does.

There really isn't any evidence that this alternate reality is more futuristic than our own. Though she MAY be from there, I'm sure we'll get more on Nina Sharp next season.
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movie_chick7
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50. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:24 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:24 PM EDT
ah i cannot wait to see what happeneds next season!!!! I wonder what they are going to do to play off that the peter we know and love is from the alternet universe? I mean what makes it diffrent then our own just chooses we make or is their more signigicant matters like abilitys?....... 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
fasdfghjkl
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51. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:25 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:25 PM EDT
wait but peter says he remembers being a kid at the house and waking up to eat the pancakes.
maybe hes not from a different reality?
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46and2
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52. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:26 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:26 PM EDT
could the ZFT be a war on Walter against Walter? since Walter 1 took Walter 2's son...the chapter of ethics - I think the other Walter removed it, and HE is responsible for Jones and his tricks? My brain is twisted from this episode - this season - this series. Yep..I want more! I like in the preview how it said "answers questioned" that made me LOL. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
gifland
gifland
53. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:36 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:36 PM EDT
My take on the Observer(s) are that each "reality" has Observers from the the other. I think they primarily keep tabs on things that travel between the "realities". When required, they intervene (police) in potentially dangerous situations. However, they can't act on their own - they must employ people from the "reality" they are in to take action. Hence, the Observer used Walter against Jones. I'm unclear on how the Observer and Peter can share thoughs, but it may have something to do with them being from the same (alternate) reality, 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
thewhitewilsmith
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54. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:40 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:40 PM EDT
"wait but peter says he remembers being a kid at the house and waking up to eat the pancakes.
maybe hes not from a different reality?"
Peter Bishop died when he was 7 years old. He didn't disclose how old he was during his "Pancake" memory.
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begross93
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55. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 12 2009, 11:47 PM EDT | Post edited: May 12 2009, 11:47 PM EDT
"The FBI doesn't know that A Peter Bishop died way back when?..... I don't know if I like the "there can be as many as we want" fall back plan.... Anything they show can now be either reality? Oooh, Jones is dead! Now he's not! He's dead again..... If there are infinite realities, there must be infinite other Walters/Peters/Olivias....Just seems a bit of a cop out to me... but I'm bitter over Life on Mars I guess.....

Did Walter get 'permission' from the other parents to take Peter? I don't see how, after he felt the terrible loss of his son, that Walter would do that to another parent....

Still doesn't explain the Observer. The best idea out there is he's a referee of sorts.... but we still don't know who the enemy is then....."
I don't think that they really meant it that way. The way they did it makes it seem like there are really only two alternate universes, ours and theirs. However, Walter did say in his alternate timeline speech that there were an infinite amount of timelines. It could be that there are really only two (and Walter's "infinite" theory was wrong) or there are only two timelines that are significant and something happens in all the others that either destroys them (or whatever is in them), renders them unimportant or makes them so different from our reality that most of what we know is untrue in that reality.

Sorry if I made that a bit confusing, but that's sort of the whole point of Fringe, isn't it?
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Sydney1124
56. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 13 2009, 12:09 AM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2009, 12:09 AM EDT
"My take on the Observer(s) are that each "reality" has Observers from the the other. I think they primarily keep tabs on things that travel between the "realities". When required, they intervene (police) in potentially dangerous situations. However, they can't act on their own - they must employ people from the "reality" they are in to take action. Hence, the Observer used Walter against Jones. I'm unclear on how the Observer and Peter can share thoughs, but it may have something to do with them being from the same (alternate) reality, "
What do you think of the theory that Astrid, Broyles or Francis may be Observers?
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46and2
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57. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 13 2009, 12:17 AM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2009, 12:17 AM EDT
"What do you think of the theory that Astrid, Broyles or Francis may be Observers?"
Good theory, but I don't buy it. The way Broyles and Olivia started off doesn't really support it, for one...or DOES it? Charlie is just there...I can't remember where Astrid came from.
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Nocturnus
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58. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 13 2009, 12:22 AM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2009, 12:22 AM EDT
"Olivia will NOT get stuck, because she was treated with Cortexiphan which gives her this special AbilitY to travel through dimensions (she did it last episode!) Also, she does not need that machine that Jones uses to travel between the dimensions .... Olivia is way more powerful."
I knew she could teleport and no one backed up The Noc on my one pea brained theory! "It's Not Even Science"
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gifland
gifland
59. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything
May 13 2009, 12:30 AM EDT | Post edited: May 13 2009, 12:30 AM EDT
If I had to venture a guess on Astrid, I would say she is also from the "alternate" reality and secretly working for William Bell as "an observer" of sorts. I think the people chosen as true Observers are "special" in that they are able to jump between "realities". While their mental powers are very advanced, they lack body hair and their sense of taste is very weak. I assume this is a result of how they are given the abilities they have (i.e. the kid who survived for years on his own in the basement from an earlier episode). 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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