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bu11d09	240. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jun 12 2009, 3:21 PM EDT …so how about this: In the alternate reality, Bell’s office is high up in one of the World Trade Center towers – about the exact place that was impacted by a terrorist’s plane in “our” reality. Shouldn’t we deduce that the Bell from our reality had the same office space and was snuffed out on 9/11. This certainly solves the issue of “shouldn’t there be two Bells in two realities.” Nina may have sought out the help of the adjacent Bell to run MD for the last eight years. Would that make for a neat story? WOW!- who needs writer's when we have people like this on this thread! Good thinkin' Buckeyman! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
movie_chick7	241. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jun 12 2009, 4:09 PM EDT "…so how about this: In the alternate reality, Bell’s office is high up in one of the World Trade Center towers – about the exact place that was impacted by a terrorist’s plane in “our” reality. Shouldn’t we deduce that the Bell from our reality had the same office space and was snuffed out on 9/11. This certainly solves the issue of “shouldn’t there be two Bells in two realities.” Nina may have sought out the help of the adjacent Bell to run MD for the last eight years. Would that make for a neat story? WOW!- who needs writer's when we have people like this on this thread! Good thinkin' Buckeyman! " Wow!!! I really like this...... <3 i cannot wait for season 2 to start!!!!!!!! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
dedead	242. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jun 13 2009, 9:31 PM EDT "…so how about this: In the alternate reality, Bell’s office is high up in one of the World Trade Center towers – about the exact place that was impacted by a terrorist’s plane in “our” reality. Shouldn’t we deduce that the Bell from our reality had the same office space and was snuffed out on 9/11. This certainly solves the issue of “shouldn’t there be two Bells in two realities.” Nina may have sought out the help of the adjacent Bell to run MD for the last eight years. Would that make for a neat story?" This sounds like a very well thought out explanation but if Bell is as powerful as he seems and is thought of being, could he have not avoided his own death by selecting an alternate reality in which the planes do not hit the WTC. It is thought that Bell can travel to alternate realities at will by other characters in the show. You do raise a good point that their is one Bell for every alternate reality. So either he is not as powerful as thought, or Bell is not as human as we think and may not have ever been dependent on the pattern. The Fringe pattern may be somewhat related to that of the Chronicles of Amber, where there are people who are trying to change or control it, but there also likely exists others who are ignorant of its existence and how their lives are dependent on it. I have unfortunately not read the Chronicles of Amber. and so are making judgments from the information I have found about it. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Houbsi	243. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jun 17 2009, 10:06 PM EDT I didn't read very well all the posts, but the fact that the actor of Spock is William Bell is not surprising. I don't remember in which episode Olivia and Alter-Peter where talking to this guy from the website. Who knows a lot of Bell and the rest. At the end he said that he spock. :D is this just an easter-egg? To say, there will be something with star trek? Or JJ is only a HUGE fan of the spock actor, like he is saying it in the video? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
checkmateuk	244. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jun 25 2009, 12:52 PM EDT I seem to be the only person in the whole of the UK watching Fringe avidly, so I hope they carry on importing it - what a season finale! Just a quick observation that possibly doesn't belong in this thread, but what the hell! Has anyone else wondered if the light-turning-off bomb-diffusal in episode 14 was actually the result of Peter Bishop's influence and not Olivia's? It just seemed that she had no effect on the bomb until Peter arrived.... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Icarus99	245. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jun 25 2009, 3:45 PM EDT Hi Checkmateuk You are not the only UK watcher. :) The question of Peter and the test has been asked many times elsewhere. Try searching for peter or the test in forum search. Icarus99 Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Will217	246. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jul 1 2009, 1:29 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jul 1 2009, 1:31 PM EDT Hello everyone. Regarding William Bell, I don't think that the one we saw at the end of the last episode was OUR William Bell. When Walter first realized that the ZFT Manifesto was written on Bell's typewriter, he mentions that the "Chapter on Ethics" is missing. He's convinced that the William Bell he knew wasn't a madman who'd carry out such an agenda. One of the excerpts he reads aloud to Peter and Astrid goes as follows: "The unknown truth is that the way to travel between them has already been discovered. By beings much like us but who’s history is slightly ahead of our own." If they are, in fact "slightly ahead of our own", then it's possible that the other dimension's W. Bell discovered the means to travel to our world before our W. Bell discovered the means to travel to theirs. If Walter really replaced his "Peter" when he died at age 7, it's plausible that their W. Bell took our W. Bell's place, modified the ZFT Manifesto and is intent on his world being the victor in the coming war. (After all, in the few seconds we were shown, it already seemed like a much better version of our world. No Kennedy assassination, no 911, and the Obama's are STILL in the White House.) Yes, war. Another excerpt that Walter read from the manifesto went as follows: "It will begin with a series of unnatural occurrences, difficult to notice at first, but growing, not unlike a cancer, until a simple fact becomes undeniable – ONLY ONE WORLD WILL SURVIVE. It’ll be either us, or them." Thoughts? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ChrisDoyon	247. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jul 3 2009, 6:20 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jul 3 2009, 6:20 AM EDT I dont believe it's either one of the Bells who took out the chapter of ethics. Maybe Jones, or somebody else. Do you remember the latin speaking people from episode "The ghost network" ? They might be the team responsible for it. I still believe firmly that this war is not a two sided one. There might be more than two parties involved. But for now, your hypothesis and mine are juste as good. September is still far away... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PinkSodaPop	248. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Jul 12 2009, 12:14 PM EDT I'm suffering from FRINGE withdrawals... Shakes violently I only posted on this thread because it's the closest I can get to my last fix. @_@' Please September.... HURRY UP! (Oh how funny...September... now why does that stand out in my observant mind exactly?) Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Christix	249. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Aug 8 2009, 9:30 AM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2009, 9:30 AM EDT "Kind of a let down actually..... The towers are pretty awesome tho.....The planes hit the white house instead of the towers... and what other building? So Walters 'plug' only worked on one hole I take it....." In what we know is that it's a space teleportation, not a time teleportation. Wtc was destructed in 2001.We know that White House was destructed in this last episode. None says it was by planes and to my opinion, 8 years to build a new white house is huge, no ? Other ideas: -None said that Jones was dead. We saw him fallen after been cut but some minutes ago, he said that balls of guns didn't make anything...Regeneration ? -What if The Observer was in fact W. Bishop himself ? -Peter died but in each episode, the alter-Peter don't call Bishop 'Dad' or 'Father'.Does he know he's not his real son ? -In this episode, it's said that fingerprints of truck driver mismatches.We know that fingerprints are unique nearly like pieces of truck.So, they know who is the owner of fingerprints.Why they didn't came to him ? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ChrisDoyon	250. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Aug 8 2009, 3:30 PM EDT \| Post edited: Aug 8 2009, 3:30 PM EDT The machine is not a time travelling one, but the ZFT Manifesto speaks of a another world "slightly ahead of ours". "Aahead" could mean technologically and/or time-wise (is this even a sentence... I'm not sure !). As for Peter knowing he is not his real son... we did see him call Peter dad, pops or wathever. But the thing about missmatching fingerprints... hmmmm you've got a good question there. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Hinkster1701	251. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Sep 13 2009, 7:41 PM EDT Would it not be somewhat weird if it is revealed that everything we have saw in season one, regardless of historical events we know have happened, like 911 and JFK, that the alternate world Olivia has traveled to to see Bell in the twin towers of the World Trade Center is in fact the correct or original universe, and it is we, who are in the alternate reality? Talk about a real twist that JJ and the gang could pull with that one. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
ChrisDoyon	252. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Sep 14 2009, 6:59 AM EDT Hooooooo I like this one ! By the way, I rewatched a couple of episode and I have to take back part of what I said: Peter does not call Walter "Dad" or wathever. He will talk about "his dad", but when he speaks directly to him, he just calls him Walter. Sorry Christix, you were right on this one :-( Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Christix	253. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Sep 14 2009, 7:23 AM EDT Don't be sorry. All this thread try to make part of observations and a lot of them became clear in the last episode of first season.JJ try to give us some answers and some clues but it's very difficult to focus on 1. In the next season, as for Lost, he'll increase amalgams trying to guide people on some wrong or good ways. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
deja-vu	254. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Nov 9 2009, 9:26 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 9 2009, 9:26 PM EST While watching this on Blu Ray (3rd time) I picked up a few things. They may have been brought up already. Did'nt read all 253 posts to find out. First, on beach Baldo gives Walter a shiny silver dollar. When Walter shows it to Peter, it has turned into the blackened one that he finds on top of the plug. After Peter says he does'nt remeber coin collecting,and gives it back, Walter then puts it on Peters grave. Now the newspaper in Bell's office. The date on it is May 12, 2009, the day of airing of this segment. Says, former president Kennedy to address UN. Pic. of Ted Kennedy. Says Celtics sweep NBA finals. Celtics did'nt make it to finals. Also says Len Bias MVP. He died 6-19-86. If he had'nt, he would have been 39. Kind of old for an MVP. Last, looks like a picture ofJerry Garcia on the wall. That's enough for now. "Is there anybody "OUT THERE"?? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
lucifah	255. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Nov 10 2009, 9:35 AM EST "While watching this on Blu Ray (3rd time) I picked up a few things. They may have been brought up already. Did'nt read all 253 posts to find out. First, on beach Baldo gives Walter a shiny silver dollar. When Walter shows it to Peter, it has turned into the blackened one that he finds on top of the plug. After Peter says he does'nt remeber coin collecting,and gives it back, Walter then puts it on Peters grave. Now the newspaper in Bell's office. The date on it is May 12, 2009, the day of airing of this segment. Says, former president Kennedy to address UN. Pic. of Ted Kennedy. Says Celtics sweep NBA finals. Celtics did'nt make it to finals. Also says Len Bias MVP. He died 6-19-86. If he had'nt, he would have been 39. Kind of old for an MVP. Last, looks like a picture ofJerry Garcia on the wall. That's enough for now. "Is there anybody "OUT THERE"??" clues ma friend, clues Post reply Do you find this valuable?
deja-vu	256. RE: Season One Finale: There's More Than One of Everything Nov 12 2009, 10:40 AM EST "While watching this on Blu Ray (3rd time) I picked up a few things. They may have been brought up already. Did'nt read all 253 posts to find out. First, on beach Baldo gives Walter a shiny silver dollar. When Walter shows it to Peter, it has turned into the blackened one that he finds on top of the plug. After Peter says he does'nt remeber coin collecting,and gives it back, Walter then puts it on Peters grave. Now the newspaper in Bell's office. The date on it is May 12, 2009, the day of airing of this segment. Says, former president Kennedy to address UN. Pic. of Ted Kennedy. Says Celtics sweep NBA finals. Celtics did'nt make it to finals. Also says Len Bias MVP. He died 6-19-86. If he had'nt, he would have been 39. Kind of old for an MVP. Last, looks like a picture ofJerry Garcia on the wall. That's enough for now. "Is there anybody "OUT THERE"??" Couple more things on the newspaper, I said it was Ted K's picture, someone else said JFK. Not sure on that. Said addressed the UN. I think Obama was the first, and it was after May 12. Last, says Celtics swept finals, in this universe, finals don't start until around June 9. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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