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grantsky07 |
20. RE: Lab Fire
May 15 2009, 1:59 AM EDT
Anyone considered that the other Walter that haunted him when he went back to the Asylum might not have been a vision? Could this have been the real Walter? Or the Alter-Walter?
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lucifah |
21. RE: Lab Fire
May 15 2009, 5:44 PM EDT
"Some good theories here, but I think some of you may be barking up the wrong tree. Olivia is 30 now. Walter was in the mental hospital for 17 years, which would have made Olivia 13 when he was incarcerated. The girl Olive in the video is 6 at the most; probably more like 4 or 5. So unless the investigation/trial/sentencing drug out for 7+ years, there's no way the fire in the video is the same one that killed the lab assistant and got Walter sent up the river.Very good point, Two different accidents. Im still thinking the first fire was Olive burning it up through pyrokinesis and Brenner being missing might be an example of another of Olivia's abilities transportation of other matter. Do you find this valuable? |
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KeiGen |
22. RE: Lab Fire
May 15 2009, 7:24 PM EDT
There is another discussion from a few weeks ago about Olivia being the fire starter that killed the lab assistant, on here somewhere. Might be helpful
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KeiGen |
23. RE: Lab Fire
May 15 2009, 7:33 PM EDT
I believe that William Bell and Wlater Bishop are alternate versions of each other. If you check the lab notes on the Fox Fringe homepage, you'll note that Walter says that the perfect window to the alternate universe is right in his lab. This would have made it easy for William to be his lab partner and share in any experiment. It would have also made it easy for William to escape to the paralell universe if anything happened. When the fire started in the lab assistant turns up dead, William escapes and profits on both sides of the universes, while Walter is sent to th elooney bin for trying to explain the laternate universe and the portal.
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Lalalalove |
24. RE: Lab Fire
May 16 2009, 1:02 PM EDT
Wasn't William Bell Walter's lab assistant? maybe since he died in the fire there is only one of him now. So he can go between both worlds because there is only one that exists so he exists in both as one. it's quite confuzzling.
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lucifah |
25. RE: Lab Fire
May 17 2009, 8:03 AM EDT
"There is another discussion from a few weeks ago about Olivia being the fire starter that killed the lab assistant, on here somewhere. Might be helpful"yeah, the thread - deja vu? Do you find this valuable? |
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rottermania |
26. RE: Lab Fire
May 18 2009, 8:15 AM EDT
"Wasn't William Bell Walter's lab assistant? maybe since he died in the fire there is only one of him now. So he can go between both worlds because there is only one that exists so he exists in both as one. it's quite confuzzling."I don't buy the Bell = Bishop theory either...If that's the case, there is no alternate Peter Bishop, because that would make Bell his father, and he'd look different, alt Peter wouldn't recognize original Walter as his father, etc. There's definatly an alt.walter out there. Do you find this valuable? |
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Lalalalove |
27. RE: Lab Fire
May 18 2009, 9:17 AM EDT
"I don't buy the Bell = Bishop theory either...If that's the case, there is no alternate Peter Bishop, because that would make Bell his father, and he'd look different, alt Peter wouldn't recognize original Walter as his father, etc. There's definatly an alt.walter out there."There may be another Walter, but if I am correct, there is only one William.If our world William was killed in the fire (If he was the lab assistant),there would only be the alternate world william left. The alt. William probably figured out how to go between both worlds. Do you find this valuable? |
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rottermania |
28. RE: Lab Fire
May 18 2009, 10:46 AM EDT
"There may be another Walter, but if I am correct, there is only one William.If our world William was killed in the fire (If he was the lab assistant),there would only be the alternate world william left. The alt. William probably figured out how to go between both worlds."We've only been introduced to one William Bell - but we have no idea what happened with the other William Bell, I wouldn't assume he died, but I wouldn't rule it out. They certainly seem to imply that Bell moves between dimensions without much problems of multiple identities. Also, one other thing that has been bothering me is about the "lab fire" - why was/is Walter's lab in perfect condition, if it was mothballed right after the fire in which the lab assistant died? I guess they're talking about another lab, the one from the video where the scorch marks were? I think there's something else going on there. I gotta go back and watch that, when Walter and the mother are talking about the incident, plus where the two Walters talk to each other. Do you find this valuable? |
rancor34 |
29. RE: Lab Fire
May 20 2009, 3:41 PM EDT
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"Anyone considered that the other Walter that haunted him when he went back to the Asylum might not have been a vision? Could this have been the real Walter? Or the Alter-Walter? "I definatly think it is the alternate world Walter... I think this Walter is the head of the ZFT... he would have access to the Typewriter as much as Bell would. I also think he has something to do with Walters incarceration into the mental institution. Do you find this valuable? |
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rancor34 |
30. RE: Lab Fire
May 20 2009, 3:58 PM EDT
"hmmm... i think you are on to something.I really like the idea that the Cortexaphan may infact affect different individuals in a unique way ... or at least as a type... a fire type or a Telekinessis type. When I saw Olive on the Tape I assumed she had manifested the Fire herself as a result of the anger (interesting side note and possible Easter egg: The Door of the the building, holding the lab and the 2nd twin... A grafitti stencil of the word "ANGER" and a mad bald face. ) The first twin manifested her pyrokenetic ability as evidenced in the bathroom of her apartment... burnt and chared... fire extingushers used... I don't think her clothes wer affected. I think Little Olive and she manifested the heat away from themselves. and Anger was the key to triggering it... that's what Walter said on the tape was that seemed to trigger it. I think the idea of 2 needed to trigger could be right though Do you find this valuable? |
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bear1102 |
31. RE: Lab Fire
Aug 6 2009, 9:47 PM EDT
"instead of a phone, how about an intercom? don't know if it changes much."hmm. well. if it is an intercom. it could mean that bell was already in the alternate universe and that was the only way he could communicate with his lab. nina sharp already mentioned that while bell was in this alternate universe, she could only communicate with him electronically. Do you find this valuable? |
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bear1102 |
32. RE: Lab Fire
Aug 6 2009, 9:51 PM EDT
good idea. i like the part about how another cortexifan subject can help activate another one.
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Starblaize |
33. RE: Lab Fire
Aug 23 2009, 9:29 PM EDT
Interesting theory about needing 2 subjects to trigger. The video of the girl Olivia, makes me also wonder if Olivia's power is to amplify the powers of test subjects around her.
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rllarson1 |
34. RE: Lab Fire
Aug 28 2009, 6:01 PM EDT
"I think your on to it. Whether it was burning the bulbs out or the wires or telepathy, what we do know is that when olivia showed up in the room with the second twin, the twin gained her power back. This means that activation can be done through proximity to another cortexiphan (sp) subject. Understanding this..... we can deduce that PETER's return to Olivia at the light box after threatening to leave must have activated her. Hence, we know Peter was also dosed. The records that were found of the subjects and dates of the injections on one of the massive dynamic websites show that a PB was the first subject, this is obviously Peter Bishop. The only question remaining is which Peter BIshop....."Just a thought, but is it possile that Peter is the one who technically defused the bomb, it is just assumed that Olivia did it since she was standing in front of the box. Do you find this valuable? |
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Starblaize |
35. RE: Lab Fire
Aug 29 2009, 4:54 PM EDT
"Just a thought, but is it possile that Peter is the one who technically defused the bomb, it is just assumed that Olivia did it since she was standing in front of the box."Ok, just to clarify, the list of test subjects were never on massive dynamic, but on cortexifan.com which was not an official site. It was a fan site that was taken down shortly after having guessed incorrectly the number of sucessful cortexiphan test subjects. We don't know yet that this Peter was a test subject since he came from the alterverse when he was a little bit older. The original Peter may have been a subject, but he is obviously deceased. Do you find this valuable? |
