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grantsky07 |
Lab Fire
May 11 2009, 2:09 PM EDT
After a bit of pondering, I have decided that I believe the fire in the lab in which Walter's lab assistant was killed was most likely associated with the new "firestarter" anomaly. It seems possible that Walter or Bell could have tested a subject, possibly Peter or the girl who died, and then once this capability was realized, a fire was started that burned down the lab.
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jackamaime |
1. RE: Lab Fire
May 11 2009, 4:06 PM EDT
"After a bit of pondering, I have decided that I believe the fire in the lab in which Walter's lab assistant was killed was most likely associated with the new "firestarter" anomaly. It seems possible that Walter or Bell could have tested a subject, possibly Peter or the girl who died, and then once this capability was realized, a fire was started that burned down the lab. "hmmm... i think you are on to something. the video walter watched at the end of bad dreams shows Olive(presumably Olivia as a child) surrounded by charred remains while she and the wall behind her remain untouched. this seems to suggest that the fire had something to do with Olivia. my personal theory is that it was some sort of altercation between little Olive and one of the firestarter children. i imagine something like this: firestarter is playing with a toy, Olive wants it, takes it, and firestarter gets upset setting her powers loose. Olivia's telekinesis(thats what i assume her power is) protects her by placing a bubble around her. thats why everything else is burned to a crisp. perhaps the lab assistant tried to stop it and died in the fire. cortexifan seems to create marvel comics-style super powers. and every child was affected differently (except the twins who have the same DNA) so i feel like it may have been one of the twins that started the blaze. i know i'm missing clues but i'm not sure what they are. what do you think? 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
46and2 |
2. RE: Lab Fire
May 11 2009, 6:33 PM EDT
I agree. when the video at the end of Bad Dreams was first shown to us, I wasn't really paying attention to the scorched environment. I think it was Olive. I can't understand why Nick would remember her, but she not remember him. Is it because she hasn't been activated yet, or...? And if she has not been activated, her powers are...powerful, for lack of better terms.
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jackamaime |
3. RE: Lab Fire
May 11 2009, 8:48 PM EDT
"I can't understand why Nick would remember her, but she not remember him. Is it because she hasn't been activated yet, or...? And if she has not been activated, her powers are...powerful, for lack of better terms."i think the kids were given these powers, then brainwashed to lay low, become loners, wear blacks and grays, stay in shape, and most of all to forget what they could do and what had happened to them. so now all their powers are there in a subconscious way only. activating brings them to the surface makes them more powerful. so it is possible for Olivia to use her powers without being activated. nicks brainwashing didn't seem to work properly, he still stayed ready for the coming battle, but he didn't forget. if you remember, his doctor talked about his "paranoid delusions" long before the man came (to activate him.) Do you find this valuable? |
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grantsky07 |
5. RE: Lab Fire
May 12 2009, 1:19 AM EDT
The scar on Nick Lane's face could be associated with this fire as well.
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fringemom |
6. RE: Lab Fire
May 12 2009, 10:43 AM EDT
This makes the most sense to me, too!I am also wondering whether or not Bell was actual at the scene when Olivia's room was burned. After listening to the video again, it seems like his voice may be over a phone or something. Just a thought. Do you find this valuable? |
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jackamaime |
7. RE: Lab Fire
May 12 2009, 11:35 AM EDT
"This makes the most sense to me, too!is that Bell's voice? i thought it was Walter's. Do you find this valuable? |
lucifah |
8. RE: Lab Fire
May 12 2009, 11:44 AM EDT
Olivia was activated by Jones the lightbox bomb was her test, before he clober timed the hospital wall he wrote You Passed . Back to the point though. I think it's right to say little Olive indirectly had something to do with the death of Walter's lab assistant. So there are a few possibilities First off - Maybe it was a horrible accident, as Olive was probably upset stressed and tired she would most likely be of a "get away from me" state of mind, so being observed and tested she want's them to leave her alone and gets so pissed that she pictures everything around her burning only because of the Cortexifan unlocked abilities things round her actually start to burn. Brenner could have been one of two assistants, closest (in proximity) to Olive and completely destroyed or teleported or maybe not present at all, the other assistant was killed but not completely destroyed. Secondly - The fire was started elsewhere and Olive protected herself while the night nurse/lab assistant is killed. Again Brenner sticks out because he's missing, not necessarily dead. Maybe he started the fire trying to stop what he now considers wrong. Either way they have a dead assistant and one unaccounted for and a major fire Police and Fire Services would have been notified. Walter as the senior figure in the lab was most probably held responsible and with an attitude like Walter's his explanation would have given any cop reason for further questioning. Upon repeating the same seemingly unbelieveable explanation Psycological Evaluation was probably followed by his stay at St. Claire's leaving William Bell to take advantage of everything Walter hadn't hidden. Do you find this valuable? |
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fringemom |
9. RE: Lab Fire
May 12 2009, 12:31 PM EDT
"is that Bell's voice? i thought it was Walter's."There are both of their voices there. But the one that is Bell's sounds like it is on a telephone or something. Not in the room necessarily. Walter's seems to be in the room as well as the woman. Just a thought, though. Do you find this valuable? |
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bp02131 |
10. RE: Lab Fire
May 13 2009, 4:17 PM EDT
instead of a phone, how about an intercom? don't know if it changes much.
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KitSeraphina |
11. RE: Lab Fire
May 13 2009, 6:40 PM EDT
This is a good explination and would make more sensethen my idea, I thought it might of been them trying to cross the realities again. Maybe thats why Bell is in the Alt now? I didn't watch all eps so I can't be sure the exacts about the inccedent, just my thoughts though.
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JimConnor |
12. RE: Lab Fire
May 13 2009, 7:55 PM EDT
"is that Bell's voice? i thought it was Walter's."Both Bell & Bishop have the audio in that clip. Bell (Nimoy) has a really rugged affect to his voice.. Do you find this valuable? |
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thedudederek |
13. RE: Lab Fire
May 13 2009, 11:17 PM EDT
"i think the kids were given these powers, then brainwashed to lay low, become loners, wear blacks and grays, stay in shape, and most of all to forget what they could do and what had happened to them. so now all their powers are there in a subconscious way only. activating brings them to the surface makes them more powerful. so it is possible for Olivia to use her powers without being activated.So do you think that she may have resurfaced these powers in the episode where she has to defuse the bomb with all the lights? Was it through telepathy, or maybe she burned the wires on the inside of the rubber wire protector, thus defusing the bomb. Do you find this valuable? |
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grantsky07 |
14. RE: Lab Fire
May 14 2009, 1:49 AM EDT
I think your on to it. Whether it was burning the bulbs out or the wires or telepathy, what we do know is that when olivia showed up in the room with the second twin, the twin gained her power back. This means that activation can be done through proximity to another cortexiphan (sp) subject. Understanding this..... we can deduce that PETER's return to Olivia at the light box after threatening to leave must have activated her. Hence, we know Peter was also dosed. The records that were found of the subjects and dates of the injections on one of the massive dynamic websites show that a PB was the first subject, this is obviously Peter Bishop. The only question remaining is which Peter BIshop.....
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TouchOfGray |
15. RE: Lab Fire
May 14 2009, 1:34 PM EDT
Some good theories here, but I think some of you may be barking up the wrong tree. Olivia is 30 now. Walter was in the mental hospital for 17 years, which would have made Olivia 13 when he was incarcerated. The girl Olive in the video is 6 at the most; probably more like 4 or 5. So unless the investigation/trial/sentencing drug out for 7+ years, there's no way the fire in the video is the same one that killed the lab assistant and got Walter sent up the river.And regarding the "PB" listing on the Cortexifan site- I'm still not convinced this isn't a fan-originated site, and it is not connected to the MD site at all. The site went from the list of Cortexifan subjects to a bunch of inaccessible links, and now there is just a black screen with a cryptic message about "We own the site now, go elsewhere for your information..." and a frog in the corner that says "wbwashere" when you hover over it. Hmmm... Do you find this valuable? |
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grantsky07 |
16. RE: Lab Fire
May 14 2009, 2:24 PM EDT
The site did seem a bit sketch, either way I am sticking to my guns on Peter being the first person dosed. Its just makes too much sense to me regarding Liv's "reactivation".
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Starblaize |
17. RE: Lab Fire
May 14 2009, 8:42 PM EDT
Given where we know Peter is from, could the Walter from the alter-verse been the true cause of the fire? Perhaps in an attempt to retrieve his son?
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jackamaime |
18. RE: Lab Fire
May 14 2009, 9:14 PM EDT
"Some good theories here, but I think some of you may be barking up the wrong tree. Olivia is 30 now. Walter was in the mental hospital for 17 years, which would have made Olivia 13 when he was incarcerated. The girl Olive in the video is 6 at the most; probably more like 4 or 5. So unless the investigation/trial/sentencing drug out for 7+ years, there's no way the fire in the video is the same one that killed the lab assistant and got Walter sent up the river."good work! excellent! i had been wondering about the timing of everything but had been too lazy to figure it out in my free time. you rock! Do you find this valuable? |
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46and2 |
19. RE: Lab Fire
May 14 2009, 11:58 PM EDT
actually, watching the recap of No Brainer, Olivia said the fire was nearly 20 years ago, so she would have been 10. dang!
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