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denkiva	How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Feb 26 2009, 9:26 PM EST What the heck happened there? Has he mutated? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
kawaiiaicat	1. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Feb 27 2009, 12:09 PM EST My guess is he turned "hulk." At least from the second fringe comic seems to alude to this fact. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
one-adam-twelve	2. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Feb 28 2009, 12:59 AM EST "What the heck happened there? Has he mutated?" i'm thinking self transportation, perhaps inter demensionally. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
holdyourfire	3. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and esca Feb 28 2009, 9:25 AM EST \| Post edited: Feb 28 2009, 9:27 AM EST When he teleported the first time remember the huge black stain on the wall of his cell afterwards. His cell walls were more likely thicker and could withstand the energy it took to teleport. The hospital walls most likely could not so it tore a huge hole in them. I think the side effects maybe cause you to start randomly teleporting through time/space/dimensions. By the way, where are these Fringe comics? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
yonatan555	4. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Feb 28 2009, 10:41 AM EST I'm thinking that from walter and Astride's conversation that the effects of the first teleportation somehow altered Mr Jones and left him with the ability to do that, perhaps he has some kind of telekensis...... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
toddvince	5. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Mar 3 2009, 8:56 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 3 2009, 8:56 AM EST When Astrid says to Walter that the end result of the transportation device was death. Walter says it is not death, but something unspeakable. That's the question that we have to find out. I don't think there are any doubts that Walter either wrote or had a hand in writing the manifesto either. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
zippomage	6. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Mar 4 2009, 11:53 PM EST hulking seems highly unlikely since it has absolutely nothing to do with any of the evidence of Davie Jones' condition. I imagine it has something to do with his polyphase electric field. You know, like the man from Power Hungry Post reply Do you find this valuable?
HarryManSteak	7. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Mar 22 2009, 6:19 PM EDT It seems to me that he mutated into some sort of creature, being able to teleport at will like some people are alluding to doesn't seem "worse than death" to me. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
zippomage	8. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Mar 23 2009, 9:50 AM EDT "It seems to me that he mutated into some sort of creature, being able to teleport at will like some people are alluding to doesn't seem "worse than death" to me." there's obviously something we don't know about the whole thing going on. I imagine, much like Mr. Meagar from Power Hungry, he can't consciously control it the way he'd like to. Perhaps his body will slowly irradiate itself to death, like those guys who were stealing stuff from the bank vault, and they had to take their "shots" before they started it up. Like all of Walters inventions, none of this crap seems user friendly. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
zippomage	9. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Mar 23 2009, 9:56 AM EDT Just had a thought on that..... In the Manifesto "ZFT" that we suspect Walter may have written, there were declarations that alternate dimensional worlds exist and are populated. Perhaps the teleporter causes some kind of dual-existence, or between-worlds-existence. something harmful to the human mind and body? Another idea that hit me just now: What if they fixed the original problem? and Jones' symptoms were only temporary? Whatever he has now could be caused by the "people" Mr. Jones "works for" tampering with the device. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
nwaiting2	10. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? Apr 8 2009, 1:15 PM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 8 2009, 1:15 PM EDT Remember mater is mostly space? The machine altered this with the medication they were takin to go through stuff. What if after a # of treatments they didn't need the machine.Hence being part here part there cells atoms resonated in a way to allow people so treated with meds and machine a number of times previously to slip through and operate in that capacity at will. The hole was theater.It would be less effectve if he slipped thru it the wall remaining unafected.It would have been corny or derrivitive of some superhero. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Verenek	11. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and esca Apr 28 2009, 10:33 PM EDT Walter says that the conciquenses are "worse than death." i think ths is that conciquense. as Peter said in the eppisode where thry steal the equipment, "You defied natural law, and mother natures a bitch" or something like that. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
zippomage	12. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and esca May 4 2009, 10:00 PM EDT "Walter says that the conciquenses are "worse than death." i think ths is that conciquense. as Peter said in the eppisode where thry steal the equipment, "You defied natural law, and mother natures a bitch" or something like that." it is entirely possible that missing-wall-ness was simply the ZFT crew's way of getting Davie Jones back. That does not explain the message burnt into the mirror, however. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
COgal	13. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and esca May 7 2009, 1:21 PM EDT \| Post edited: May 7 2009, 1:21 PM EDT After Road not taken episode - I wonder if Mr. Jones has the fire talent like they were working on in this episode? Any thoughts? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Woolyworm	14. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and esca May 11 2009, 10:15 AM EDT \| Post edited: May 11 2009, 10:17 AM EDT I think we are overlooking a simple answer, as zippo mentioned. He didn't ripout the wall, someone came to get him...... There is alot of debris inside the room, perhaps indicating the damage came from the outside. They already got him out of a prison, a hospital would be easier, and leaving the hole makes people wonder the same question we are... did he do that, I don't want to catch someone that can do that..... (Or I know I'd be thinking that... ;) Jones left the message for Olivia, knowing she'd come to the room. She had to go talk to him... he knows that. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
alexanderpromothus	15. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? May 11 2009, 11:10 PM EDT Walter said that his body would go through many various transmutations. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
zippomage	16. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? May 12 2009, 12:13 PM EDT yeah, but nobody knows what that means but walter Post reply Do you find this valuable?
gant77	17. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? May 13 2009, 6:44 PM EDT I want to know why they didnt even mention the huge hole. They acted like they had no idea it was him. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
IndigoRage	18. RE: How did Mr. Jones rip that huge hole in the hospital wall and escape? May 29 2009, 5:41 PM EDT Theory Time again: As I recall, Walter stated the effects of teleportation don't "kill you, it's far worse." Given Jones's condition prior to the end of season 1, that is wrapped in bandages and appearantly degenerating, I would theorize the effect of teleportation to be a physical degeneration, perhaps breaking down at the molecular level, until nothing is left but a blob of goo. It is also likely that another side-effect is random energy discharge, left over from the teleportation itself. That sort of discharge would explain the hole in the hospital wall, the charred message and might have a link to that same molecular degeneration mentioned above. Certainly I'd think breaking down into one's chemical makeup, slowly, would certainly be worse than simple death. Of course, it would have been far more amusing to find out that the ultimate effect of being teleported is that you are eventually, if not rather painfully, returned to the place from which you were teleported - thus landing Jones, just as unexplainably as he disappeared, back in the same German prison. Post reply Do you find this valuable?