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denkiva	Who is the "Observer"? Feb 26 2009, 9:20 PM EST There are so many theories! We do know that he has been around for a VERY long time... Post reply Do you find this valuable? Keyword tags: None
Woolyworm	1. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Apr 4 2009, 6:55 AM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 4 2009, 6:55 AM EDT Just a thought that popped into my head..... What if Broyles is an observer? I've not thought about it too much yet, but in the same episode we meet the observer, Broyles responded to Olivia that he knew 'alot of bald guys'. Granted, there ARE alot of bald guys around... but have we ever seen Broyles eat? Drink? He was a certain way of looking at everyone, almost bird-like. He doesn't touch anything, he's stand offish... Could there be observer 'moles'? Could this 'other dimension' have more than one side operating there also? While not at war, they might be working towards different goals. I remember the Star Trek episode where one race was black on one side, white on the other. The other race was opposite and the definately did not like each other. (Not to start anything, it is just an observation :) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
COgal	2. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Apr 27 2009, 3:17 PM EDT I think I've figured it out - The observer is the boy from the Inner Child. He had such a connection to Olivia and I think that is why he has been seen at all the sites where things are happening - he's keeping an eye on Olivia. Also would explain why he saved Walter and Peter from the water when Peter was a kid - He knew Olivia would need their help. What do you guys think? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
FringeBenefit	3. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 16 2009, 12:32 AM EDT "I think I've figured it out - The observer is the boy from the Inner Child. He had such a connection to Olivia and I think that is why he has been seen at all the sites where things are happening - he's keeping an eye on Olivia. Also would explain why he saved Walter and Peter from the water when Peter was a kid - He knew Olivia would need their help. What do you guys think?" Didnt the little boy see the observer at the end of the episode when he was being driven away in the car? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
lucifah	4. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 17 2009, 10:15 AM EDT "Just a thought that popped into my head..... What if Broyles is an observer? I've not thought about it too much yet, but in the same episode we meet the observer, Broyles responded to Olivia that he knew 'alot of bald guys'. Granted, there ARE alot of bald guys around... but have we ever seen Broyles eat? Drink? He was a certain way of looking at everyone, almost bird-like. He doesn't touch anything, he's stand offish... Could there be observer 'moles'? Could this 'other dimension' have more than one side operating there also? While not at war, they might be working towards different goals. I remember the Star Trek episode where one race was black on one side, white on the other. The other race was opposite and the definately did not like each other. (Not to start anything, it is just an observation :)" Like us being evolved primates? Observer's could be evolved Aves or Avialae! hehehe Either that or they look at us funny because they are from quite a distance into the future. very advanced Humans from our reality on our timeline. Hence the observer strange clone like appearance. A couple of decades advancement throught demensions merging might end up in a nasty enough situation that Future Us cant deal with, but with advanced technology they can create clones with an altered genetic structure (eg. no hair and very simple taste-buds) that wont get messed up by traveling backwards in time. Future Us in the light of destuction might have realised that the only way they could survive was to even up the odds many years previous by changing things using their Observer(maybe plural). Which could explain his blatant violation of the observation only rule - Saving Walter from the icy cold water, Speaking Peter's mind in the woods, giving Walter the alter-coin for reference at the beach house to name a few. The Observer also reports information back to some one, some where. After his munch with 11 jala..... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
lucifah	5. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 17 2009, 10:34 AM EDT ....pinos, he calls somebody to say the cylinder was here like he is part of a group. So an advanced genetically altered time traveling future guiding being, i think. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Fenlok	6. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 19 2009, 10:38 PM EDT Could he be the other Walter? He knew the plug was in the cabin and the location of Peters grave, he also had the coin. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
lucifah	7. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 27 2009, 9:59 AM EDT Somehow that doesn't add up. We need season two!!! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Icarus99	8. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 27 2009, 3:39 PM EDT I have a suspicion as to who the Observer reports too.... Could he be reporting to Alternate Olivia/ Olive We know she exists as Olivia took her place when she spoke to Alt Charlie. Just a thought. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
lucifah	9. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 28 2009, 9:20 AM EDT "I have a suspicion as to who the Observer reports too.... Could he be reporting to Alternate Olivia/ Olive We know she exists as Olivia took her place when she spoke to Alt Charlie. Just a thought." We dont know that for fact yet, there are two possibilities - Two Olivia's swapping physically or Two Olivia's glimpsing the alternative one's reality. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
IndigoRage	10. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 29 2009, 5:25 PM EDT His name is September, and I theorize he is from "the other side", that same alternate reality Bell hangs out in, and Olivia was visiting at the end of the season. Though he has been given the title of The Observer by those on "this side", his actual role in the events unfolding here may not be as spectacular as we might think. Despite his obvious presence throughout Fringe history, and seemingly unaging visage, there may be a far simpler explanation: This seemingly mid-30's-to-40's, hairless, dulled-senses man may ultimately prove to be little more than a lab-assistant from "the other side". His presence "on this side" throught history may simply be a result of his people's experiments in crossing dimensions, a project they may have only recently engaged, by their time, but has prompted his appearence throughout our history. I also theorize he may be Peter's biological father (see my entry in Is Peter a Cortexiphan experiment), which would also explain the connection between him and the Bishops. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Starblaize	11. RE: Who is the "Observer"? May 31 2009, 7:49 PM EDT Personally I think that the Observers exist separately from the alternate worlds. We know that the alternate reality that Bell lives in is only slightly different than ours. I also think they may also see time and reality differently from us which gives them insights into the pattern related events that occur. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Starfury7	12. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Jun 3 2009, 11:05 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 3 2009, 11:08 AM EDT I think the observer is from an alternate reality further from our own. What I understand of the multiverse theory, there are almost an infinate number of variations. As such, there is a spectrum of realities. Those closest to our own are most like ours but there are many realities further away from our own where we would not recognize as well or at all. I think the observer is from one of these realities further from our own than the one Olivia visited. It is a reality where humans lost hair and have evolved some form of telepathy or empathy and can't taste the same way we do. The child I think is not the observer but another member from the observer's reality. Maybe they have holes thier reality that randomly dumps them here. The agent said on the phone that he found "another one." That being said, we know that the manifesto says that these experiments are to protect us from humans not much different than us in another reality. I think we made the assumption is was a 1 reality vs a 1 reality and that Bell and such were in this other reality or the watcher was. Judging that the observer is no way like Bell's reality, (they all have hair) there are multiple realities. Also, just because the observer is definatly from a way different reality and more advanced (the burrowing device) I think it would be foolish to assume that he is of that molevelent reality that the manifesto refers to. He seems too pacifistic, like an impartial observer in our pending war with this reality that I think we have yet to see. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
thepoppyman	13. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Jun 5 2009, 7:34 AM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 5 2009, 7:37 AM EDT i think the observer is an overseer of others of his kind--think back to the episode "The arrival." maybe they used earth as a place to lay low and the observer's job is to make sure that all that are born leave earth safetly--that's why he was worried about the kid in "inner child" who was going to a foster home instead of leaving like the others. i think the observer's race is leaving and he's just making sure things go according to plan and they aren't supposed to interfere with the coming war between humans and some other, alien race. I think the observer is reptilian too btw--raw roast beef sandwich, bald head. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
utladybrighid	14. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Jun 7 2009, 6:35 PM EDT \| Post edited: Jun 7 2009, 6:35 PM EDT I'm having a hard time with the theory of Broyles being an Observer. He doesn't have the "follicular dilemma" the Observer and the boy have. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
JoeArmstrong	15. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Jun 17 2009, 9:02 PM EDT "I'm having a hard time with the theory of Broyles being an Observer. He doesn't have the "follicular dilemma" the Observer and the boy have." Broyles isn't and Observer. The Observer is there to keep balance between the two dimensions. When people of this dimension are getting close to the other dimension he becomes more active. Lets see next season when the new dimension is bridged or about to be bridged if we see more of him? What would Walter say? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
dedead	16. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Jun 18 2009, 1:47 PM EDT The character the Observer may be used in the story to personify the fact that people observe the events related to the pattern, so all of the characters may be observers. Although the characters may believe they do not affect the pattern simply by observing it they are. In quantum mechanics it has been shown that "observing" an event seems to affect the way it is carried out. Most people refer to this phenomenon both in physics and philosophy as the Copenhagen Interpretation. What the bleep do we know? Down the rabbit whole, shows a great example of this theory in a more simple sense. I believe the writers are making reference to this phenomenon. So it would be a contradiction not to expect an observer to affect the pattern. As a result the Observer is not limited only to observation as he already affects the system by observing it. This would make his saving Walter and Peter, as well as other things, less forbidden. Everyone is an observer and affect the pattern, although they may not realize it. The Observer as a character may just be used to personify this and make it more concrete. Although I do not want to limit the Observer's purpose for the show, he may also be a part of another group who is trying to learn more about the pattern in hope of being able to control it. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
BuckeyeMan	17. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Jun 19 2009, 4:14 PM EDT I believe episode 19 and 20 were fairly definitive in showing what the Observer is (and has been) doing. In 19, we saw the creation and beginning divergence of a new alternate reality. Dunham was sensing this and getting caught between the two. One reality had the Boston bio-weapon fire storm and in the newly created alternate reality, the tragedy was avoided. The Observer was in the background affecting the timing of certain events so that people did things in an alternate way resulting in the course of history changing. Nancy Lewis hence did not self destruct but rather turned Harris into a charcoal brisket. In 20, the Observer occupied Walter for the entire day. He casually took him on a bus ride, then to the graveyard and finally to the beach house. It gave Peter time to find Walter. Why didn’t the Observer tell Walter to get his ass up to the corner bedroom foot locker, get the plug and high tail it out to Reiden Lake? If he had, Walter and Peter would have gotten there way too fast. They needed to get there just as Jones was setting up in order to pull the plug on him. Ask yourself: if the Observer had not done what he did, would Walter and Peter have been at Reiden Lake that night with the plug. You can apply this thought to episodes 15 and 4 and both get far more interesting. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
agentBarrymore	18. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Jul 11 2009, 3:41 PM EDT He is everywhere and he always observes the incidents what FBI is really searching for.And on the other hand,when Olivia figures the secrets out about the crimes and such kind of events,she realizes that almost every secret is laying behind something special.And it may be connected with those things and the "bald man".I think the Observer is an agent of Massive Dynamic.Of course, the scenery will hide the fact -who he is and for whom he is working for- from the audience for a long time. Because the secrets are getting much and on the other side "bald man" is doing his observing work as well.He even was not caught.FBI have only photos of him and there is no more evidence.And Nina Sharp is aware of everthing what FBI do.And I think she knows who "the Observer" is.So can we say "the Observer is working for Massive Dynamic" ? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
utladybrighid	19. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Jul 12 2009, 12:07 AM EDT there is no way he is part of massive dynamic.. there is something otherworldly about this guy... massive dynamic is to ordinary an explanation think also of the way broyles and nina were discussing the increasing frequency in his appearances... i dont think nina would have run to broyles when he started showing more frequently if he worked for massive dynamic... Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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