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PinkSodaPop	40. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Sep 29 2009, 4:28 PM EDT "What if the observer's an Angel? There were bible verses listed in the end of season 2 episode 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_language " I like what you're thinking... I sorta have this vibe myself but from Olivia... because of all the religious references...and that she's a cop... I sorta thought that perhaps she was a Seraphim... or perhaps some sort of genetically altered child descended from a cheribum/seraphim. I also don't think it's too far off to think the same of the observer. I personally think the Observer is AI --- like artificial intelligence.... and I liked what you said about him being the next step after homo sapiens.... this is what I was thinking as well. Smiles Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
PinkSodaPop	41. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Sep 29 2009, 4:30 PM EDT Oh and I forgot to mention my supporting facts of why I think the Observer is AI... Perhaps the spicy food was some form of bio fuel. Smiles Just a thought! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
PinkSodaPop	42. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Sep 29 2009, 4:31 PM EDT Oh and that he's definitely from the very far future....a time traveler fits him perfectly. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SciFiFemale	43. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 2 2009, 2:07 AM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 2 2009, 2:07 AM EDT "I think I've figured it out - The observer is the boy from the Inner Child. He had such a connection to Olivia and I think that is why he has been seen at all the sites where things are happening - he's keeping an eye on Olivia. Also would explain why he saved Walter and Peter from the water when Peter was a kid - He knew Olivia would need their help. What do you guys think?" how can the boy from the Inner Child be the Observer, when they were both seen at the same time in that episode? just asking. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
bibler1	44. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 2 2009, 2:38 AM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 2 2009, 2:38 AM EDT Can anybody tell me what the song was that was playing on the turntable in the lab at the end of tonights episode? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
From-The-Other-Side	45. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 2 2009, 4:33 AM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 2 2009, 4:33 AM EDT Broyles can not be an Observer because, He can not read other peoples minds(Like normal observers). And most of all "HE DOES NOT OBSERVE ANYTHING". He only knows about things after investigations. And as shown in Season-2,Ep-1, he's been working for the government for a long time and trying to find about the Original Observer. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
baby_shrew	46. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 4 2009, 12:31 PM EDT http://www.fringepedia.net/wiki/The_Observer :) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
BuckeyeMan	47. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 4 2009, 5:49 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 4 2009, 5:49 PM EDT "http://www.fringepedia.net/wiki/The_Observer :)" I think wiki gives us a fairly accurate statement of the known facts about the Observer except....the statement that the Observer has received a brief case of surviellance photos of Walter. I know we saw such an image of that in episode 2-3, but it was voice-overed by the Colonel. Was that image just an example of what the Colonel thinks is going on? Was anybody actually in a position to witness that scene. If not, that "fact" should be taken off wiki. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
baby_shrew	48. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 5 2009, 1:49 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 1:49 PM EDT Which episode? Gets confusing on here...check this out... http://fringepedia.net/wiki/Fracture Scroll to bottom to "music." Post reply Do you find this valuable?
BuckeyeMan	49. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 5 2009, 5:09 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 5:09 PM EDT "Which episode? Gets confusing on here...check this out... http://fringepedia.net/wiki/Fracture Scroll to bottom to "music."" Sorry for the confusion... I was referencing the third episode of the second season. I really think the scene of the Observer opening the brief case containing a picture of Walter may be an illustration of what the Colonel thinks is happening but it may not be actually happening (and therefore it would not be a "fact" as wiki represents it to be.) Post reply Do you find this valuable?
baby_shrew	50. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 5 2009, 6:24 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 6:24 PM EDT "Can anybody tell me what the song was that was playing on the turntable in the lab at the end of tonights episode?" Which episode? Gets confusing on here...check this out... http://fringepedia.net/wiki/Fracture Scroll to bottom to "music." Post reply Do you find this valuable?
baby_shrew	51. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 5 2009, 6:37 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 6:37 PM EDT Sorry Buckeyeman - I thought I hit "quote & reply." Obviously didn't! lol So it's NOT a fact (the Observer opening the case)? Could very well be. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
baby_shrew	52. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 5 2009, 7:39 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 5 2009, 7:39 PM EDT Cripes Buckeye, now I found this! lmao Towards the bottom (Federal building - Gordon Reveals)... http://fringepedia.net/wiki/Fracture/Transcript If it's in the transcript, it's still possible that it was a mental image given by the Colonal and didn't actually happen? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
RyanSmithN	53. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 15 2009, 10:33 PM EDT When did we learn his name is September? I know for a fact the two previous months were added to the calender and named for Julius and Augustus Ceaser, perhaps he's a great ruler from the past as well, although he knew better than to openly display the fact that he was actually controlling anything and stayed hidden from the public. Another thought I had was that perhaps the reason he looks so young is because he is, and only appears to have been around for so long because he's from the other side and experiences time shifts just as Olivia did. Can anyone see any holes in my theory? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
locnar33	54. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 25 2009, 8:46 AM EDT We know there are supposed to be an infinate number of universes. We also know that if 2 universes "collide" only one will be left standing. What if the Observer(s) come from a universe where this has already happened? Having already seen the pattern play itself out, they would know what to look for to be where ever these events occure. An even scarier possiblity is that the observers themselves started this whole mess and are takeing notes as a sort of science project to see what happens when two realities collide. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DamienReigns	55. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 27 2009, 9:50 PM EDT All of these theories are dependent on whether you see time according to Einstein's theory or Quantum Mechanics. Einstein's theory basically looks at time as a road that you travel on. We travel on that road in one direction and all of the things that you have already seen are still there to see if you were to go back and look at them and all of the things that you will see on that road are already there to be run into in the future. So basically, everything that will happen has happened already...kind of. With that thought in mind...imagine you would want to go back in time to observe something like be in Dealy Plaza, Dallas on Nov 22, 1963. You already know that Oswald will be in the last window of the sixth floor of the book depository and that the shots will be fired at 12:30. All you have to do is go back in time, stand on the grassy knoll and watch what happens. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DamienReigns	56. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 27 2009, 9:51 PM EDT \| Post edited: Oct 27 2009, 9:56 PM EDT ...on the other hand... If you see time according to Quantum Mechanics, then the future isn't certain. The future is the result of every choice we make every second. If that is true then time travel isn't possible...not to the future any way. And thus begins a paradox. If you could only travel back in time, then to you the relative time traveler, there is a future...it just hasn't happened for any body else yet. AND if that's true then the present, just like these realities, are relative based on the observer. Which makes an interesting point to why they call the observer "The Observer." Physical time travel is a very scary thing. In Observation Theory, simply observing an object changes that object. You don't have to do ANYTHING but observe and you change what would have happened. If you weren't there watching, it may have happened differently. If you were to physically go back in time, simply breathing the air means that that air cannot be breathed by someone else who was supposed to breath it. The Butterfly Effect then plays a part. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DamienReigns	57. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 27 2009, 9:51 PM EDT Also, the observer is probably NOT the kid from INNER CHILD because of what the CIA op said, "I've found another one." As for the Fringe characters as Angels theories...anyone in the military can tell you that when a little kid sees someone in uniform they automaticaly assume they're in the Army. The same thing has happened with Angels. People couldn't explain what they were so the automatically associated them as a supernatural being. Kind of like how belief in God started. Some cave tribe is walking along the middle of no where when all of the sudden a thunder storm approaches. The idiot with the tallest spear gets struck by lightning...there aren't any other cave people around to kill him...PRESTO...it must be an all powerful being. We'll call him Bob...I mean...God. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
DamienReigns	58. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Oct 27 2009, 9:52 PM EDT As for why he looks like he doesn't age... You all seem to assume that he is continuing along the timeline just as we are. If he were not, if he just jumped from event to event, then to us it would appear that he stayed the same age because he is. He only sticks around for a few mintues, hours to observe the event then ZAP...onto the next one, ZAP on to the next, ZAP...and so on. To him only a few days or weeks may have passed though to us it would seem to be decades. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
sjmyers06	59. RE: Who is the "Observer"? Nov 14 2009, 12:03 PM EST \| Post edited: Nov 14 2009, 12:10 PM EST its been touched on a little in some of the postings and i am one that thinks the "observer" is from another dimension or time. everyone has heard the saying "everything happens for a reason". i think that the observer is here to make sure that the world stays on its course, the course that maybe it was designed for and that if time travel is possible for him then its got to be for others, others that can change the course of history. which would explain him always being around at all major history events because if anything were going to be changed it would be those. for instance look at the assasSination of JFK. if i'm not mistaken in one of the episodes they had pictures of him outside of the hospital where JFK was taken to in Dallas. if you noticed on the paper in bells office JFK's picture was on it talking about him attending a conferance(cant remember exactlty) but he was still alive. one thing did just occur to me... what if the observer is here from the alt universe working for bell making sure that all of the bad happens here and the alt. maintains the perfect world atmosphere. what i mean is in another post i said that the alt. universe had some of the things we didnt have anymore. JFK, Challenger,WTC, and Peter. we know that JFK was killed, the Challenger blew up, WTC's were destroyed and our Peter died. well we all have come to the conclusion that the peter we have is the "alt" peter because ours died. well they lost peter and the perfect world no longer exist causing the rift between the two. maybe thats why the observer took walter back to peters grave telling him that peter died and even though you had the power to change it you shouldnt have. Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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