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denkiva	Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Feb 26 2009, 9:19 PM EST Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Where is he from? Some say space, but now we have this introduction of the concept of the battle of the realities... Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
bubbadarcher	1. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Mar 2 2009, 10:09 PM EST the observer is from an alternate universe that is monitoring the events between our dimension and the "other" dimension referred to in "ability", acting primarily as a refferee, unable to affect either in the race toward survival or extinction. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
SEfanA	2. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Mar 2 2009, 10:28 PM EST "the observer is from an alternate universe that is monitoring the events between our dimension and the "other" dimension referred to in "ability", acting primarily as a refferee, unable to affect either in the race toward survival or extinction." Interesting theory. The Observer as a refferee. But what about when he saved Peter and Walter. Was he recorrecting a break in the rules from one dimention? Or maybe setting off a chain of events leading to the pattern, like dominoes. Post reply 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
arjay999	3. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Mar 2 2009, 10:52 PM EST "Interesting theory. The Observer as a refferee. But what about when he saved Peter and Walter. Was he recorrecting a break in the rules from one dimention? Or maybe setting off a chain of events leading to the pattern, like dominoes." I think he wasn't supposed to do that (get involved), but he knew how important the Bishops are to the pattern of events. And, since he had, he made Walter beholden to him -which played out in 1.04. Post reply 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
SEfanA	4. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Mar 3 2009, 10:08 AM EST \| Post edited: Mar 3 2009, 7:16 PM EST "I think he wasn't supposed to do that (get involved), but he knew how important the Bishops are to the pattern of events. And, since he had, he made Walter beholden to him -which played out in 1.04." Yes. In other tv shows, when they deal with alternate realities, there is usually some choice that was different, which led to the two different realities. What if in the alternate reality, Peter died, and Walter, in his grief, went evil. That could be the reason this and the other realities are, according to the manifesto, in conflict, or whatever the wording was. Years ago, The Observer, maybe from this alternate reality, doing basic research, saved a boy that was drowning. Now he's got to resolve this, somehow. Or another thought, what if the observer is not on the same time line that everyone else is. He's always the same age, so what if he's transporting himself through time to each of these locations. So, When we see him "observing," what if it's before he goes to save little peter. This reminds me of the Doctor, in Doctor Who. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Firebird34	5. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Mar 3 2009, 5:41 PM EST \| Post edited: Mar 3 2009, 5:42 PM EST I posed this question in my thread Theory on Observers Post reply 0 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
pugpugpug	6. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Mar 8 2009, 9:03 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 8 2009, 9:03 PM EDT SEfanA's first comment got me thinking about when the Observer saved Walter and Peter. Maybe in another timeline, Walter and Peter died in that frozen river. Maybe the Observer knew this, then came back to save them, since they may play a HUGE part in the war/battle/conflict between worlds. Maybe Peter and/or Walter could be the recruits/warriors that were mentioned in the manifesto? Peter could have been injected with cortexifan and no one would know because Walter's mind is so scattered. Oh my goodness,, so many possibilities!! Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
ISEEALL	7. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Mar 23 2009, 8:25 PM EDT if this is the case why does the observer write in such a way ep4 at the diner.surely he would write like the rest of them. Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
SEfanA	8. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Mar 23 2009, 10:02 PM EDT "if this is the case why does the observer write in such a way ep4 at the diner.surely he would write like the rest of them." Who knows? It could be a secret code meant to prevent the notes from being stolen by an enemy, which could be any of the following: ZFT, Massive Dynamic, or nosy waitresses. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mr_es1	9. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Apr 2 2009, 3:40 PM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 2 2009, 3:40 PM EDT I believe that the theory that there two planes of reality is true. It's like looking at the outside of a house in a cookie cutter sub-division. Overall alot of the floor plans are the same, the outsides are the same but inside the inhabitants are different and there different nuances that make each home just a little different although it is the same overall design. The same can be said for the planes of reality on the show, maybe those people evolved somewhat differently, or they existed first. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
rute67	10. New observer question Apr 8 2009, 5:04 PM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 8 2009, 5:04 PM EDT Is the unnamed child an Observer.... What was the relationship between him and the Observer at the end of the episode? Does this relationship stem from the fear that dunum has toward the original Observer? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
mr_es1	11. RE: New observer question Apr 8 2009, 6:58 PM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 8 2009, 6:58 PM EDT "Is the unnamed child an Observer.... What was the relationship between him and the Observer at the end of the episode? Does this relationship stem from the fear that dunum has toward the original Observer?" Could the boy be THE Observer? Or if he is AN Observer, how did they get here? Is it the same means of transportation that the Beacon had? Maybe the observer is a time traveler himself, and he IS the boy all grown up. Time travel, the teleportation device, it moves through space and time, remember? Theory: Something cataclysmic happens in the future involving two realities, ours and "theirs". (second Walter in "The Equation"). The Observer(s) is/are sent back to gather information on what events lead up to the catastrophe. It involves otherworldly technology, gained by experimenting with forces the human species is not mature enough to wield, like a kid with an atom bomb instead of a gun. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
gil_cdn	12. RE: New observer question Apr 8 2009, 8:58 PM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 8 2009, 8:58 PM EDT Another thought just to throw out there for discussion and speculation sake: What if these Observers are human from the future (who had lost the 'War' between the two universe and therefore were forced to hide in conceal chambers, resulting in their paleness and baldness.) They have now find a way to travel back through time, in order to help the 'Warriors' (remember Jones is recruiting Olivia to become one) to win the war, therefore altering the final outcome. Although, I've always had issues with time travelling 'cause it can easily leads to multiple endless loops ..... one can go back again and again to change the outcome of things! Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Rye7	13. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Apr 16 2009, 8:41 AM EDT Hey guys, did you notice that it seemed like walter has two personalities? one that sounds like the walter we all know and love, and then a sterner more scientific voice that types in Bold. It has popped up in his other notes, but it is really clear here. the tone of the note complety changes. Does this have something to do with the 'Other walter" we saw in "The Equation." When walter was in St. mary's. I have speculated that it was either him manifesting an illusion of a personality he developed, being locked away for 17 years, and hopped up on Meds, or it could be An "alternate" Reality version of himself. He did refer in one of his notes of "Another self." There seems to be some underlying theme with this, and with The ZFT manuscript, mentioning "Other beings much like us but different, from other dimension." Brings into context the Theory of Quantim Physics, in which they state that once you make a jump in time and Space - you create a 'Alternate Reality". Every choice you makes, creates a second reality where you made the opposite choice. i.e. Today i woke up and had to decide if i should wear a red shirt or blue. as soon as i decide on a red shirt, i create an alternate reality/universe where i wore the blue instead. Later in the day i have to decide if i'm gonna eat a hamburger or a chicken sandwich, the same thing happens. Could Walter have created an Alternate reality when he created the 'Dis -ray." and tested it out? That would explain why he dissasemble the "Dis - Ray" and hid it in Various Bank vaults, why he knew of the existance of the Observers he wrote about in the ZFT manual, and why the "Observer" was for a lack of a better word "observing' him and peter when their car crashed in to the frozen lake. What do you guys think? Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Rye7	14. RE: New observer question Apr 16 2009, 8:43 AM EDT "Could the boy be THE Observer? Or if he is AN Observer, how did they get here? Is it the same means of transportation that the Beacon had? Maybe the observer is a time traveler himself, and he IS the boy all grown up. Time travel, the teleportation device, it moves through space and time, remember? Theory: Something cataclysmic happens in the future involving two realities, ours and "theirs". (second Walter in "The Equation"). The Observer(s) is/are sent back to gather information on what events lead up to the catastrophe. It involves otherworldly technology, gained by experimenting with forces the human species is not mature enough to wield, like a kid with an atom bomb instead of a gun. " OH! i like that theory!!! I think the two realities occured when Walter gave his "Dis - Ray" device a test run. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
null404	15. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Apr 17 2009, 11:49 AM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 17 2009, 12:07 PM EDT I think that the observer was once a human, and somehow he loss is human "touch", due to some think, probably in order to become an observer he had to lost is human part. Broyle was probably an observer in the past, he knows to much, and that midge that appears on an episode where P.Bishop force him to give the right amount of money for a book sale, was probably an observer. Its seems to me that the role of an observer is to check or collect data of events related to the Pattern. In order to see if the balance between the two(or more) reality's are kept. A bit like matter and anti-matter, ying and yang. To whom he reports these events? That I would like to know. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jackamaime	16. RE: New observer question May 11 2009, 1:18 PM EDT "Is the unnamed child an Observer.... What was the relationship between him and the Observer at the end of the episode?" i already posted this elsewhere but think it fits better here: here's a theory to lend credence to the idea that the inner child is an Observer. the boy has this ability to resonate with emotion like a tuning fork, right? well in The Arrival, the Observer has a scene with Peter where the sheer proximity to another creature forces him to blurt out whatever Peter is thinking. the Observer seems to have the same mental/emotional telepathy as the child though more refined. i don't think they are the same person. it does not seem like the Observer we know is a singular being. but rather is a member of a specialized race. my theory on the Observer is that he and those like him are like the mothmen. but they are connected not to disasters in general, but to observing the Pattern. though tonights episode looks like he will feature more prominently so we may get some answers. but most likely more questions will come along with them. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
vinniedonuts	17. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? May 11 2009, 7:37 PM EDT actually he is jesus, an the resurection is " he is here" Post reply 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
alexanderpromothus	18. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? May 11 2009, 10:44 PM EDT Of course, there is no question he must be, given the facts. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
telePathy	19. RE: Is the Observer from the alternate reality? Jun 8 2009, 11:45 PM EDT This was along the lines of what I was thinking. It also further explains "the path not taken" as Walter described. The only problem with that theory is that it assumes that there's always and only two choices. Does each choice or combination of choices present an infinitude of alternate realities? Concerning the world from which the Observer originates, I believe that the found bald boy is a younger version of himself. The grown Observer has an attachment to Olivia, Walter and Peter because he knew that they were going to instrumental in his welfare when he was a boy. He had an interest in saving Walter and Peter because he was "...going to need [them] someday." Post reply Do you find this valuable?

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