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arjay999 |
80. RE: My theory on the Observer
Jan 30 2009, 7:06 PM EST
"that would be similar to the area 51 book series. i realy liked that, and it was very similar to some fringe things. 5 or 6 books long. i cant remember. but good. i recommend them highly. "I've read them and really liked them. There are seven of them in the series. They would make a good show or mini-series. You're right, tho, some of the concepts are fringey and could be tied into the series in a historical way, I guess. Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
81. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 7 2009, 10:03 AM EST
"I had put this in the Smoke Glyph thread, but I thought I'd add it here... Y'all might think I'm really on the "Fringe" with this but here goes...I actually believe there are a group or organization of these biblical 'Watchers' in the show that are part of the competing sphere of groups for the control of 'The Pattern'. These 'Watchers', by the way, are separate and distinct from 'The Observer(s)'. Going back to the frozen bus episode, where DEA Agent Davidson (the bad guy) meets with the Latin speaking guy in what appears to be a small cathedral. There are several more religious parallels and symbols in that episode. And lots and lots of bald guys throughout the show. Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
82. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 7 2009, 7:31 PM EST
"Elektrog Posts:He is seen ejecting from the plane just as it banks left over the trees at the soccer field. The object (Observer) shoots from the plane, arcing right and then descending. There is no sign of a parachute, however. This 'ejection' also has the earmarks of a powered acceleration. What technology, indeed?!? Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
83. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 7 2009, 9:46 PM EST
"He is seen ejecting from the plane just as it banks left over the trees at the soccer field. The object (Observer) shoots from the plane, arcing right and then descending. There is no sign of a parachute, however.If this is actually an Observer, he would be the second Observer that has been expected by me for some time. This is the first occurance that I know of that we see what could be a second observer in an episode. Or is he one of the 'watchers' instead? He is very bald, and is a 'no-neck' kinda' guy if you know what I mean. He is not the usual Observer from the prior episodes. Our usual guy (played by Chikalis -sp?), is on the soccer field as the mom is hurrying her kids to the car just before the plane crashes and our no-neck guy ejects from the plane. See the photos I just posted. Do you find this valuable? |
DrObvious |
84. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 12:25 AM EST
"If this is actually an Observer, he would be the second Observer that has been expected by me for some time. This is the first occurance that I know of that we see what could be a second observer in an episode. Or is he one of the 'watchers' instead? He is very bald, and is a 'no-neck' kinda' guy if you know what I mean. He is not the usual Observer from the prior episodes.One thing that I would like to note is that in the episode "The Arrival", Dr. Bishop refers to him as an old friend. Did anyone catch this? It was if they knew one another and instantly recognized by each. Also, did anyone notice when the Observer was writing in his notebook at the beginning of that episode he was writing from right to left in a language that was not a recognizable language as well as the fact that he was writing that complex hieroglyphic language without looking. Also, note the fold-up binoculars - if you take a still frame of that moment and enhance it you will notice the same hieroglyphics as well. And again, who does he call - if he is truly the Observer then he needs to call no one - Massive Dynamics? Do you find this valuable? |
bttrfly5 |
85. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 9:16 AM EST
"Have you noticed that the hairless guy was on the plane (while Marshall Bowman was going into the lavatory you will notice) and the plane crashed. What happened to him? Any idea? How can he survive? "OMG!! You are right! I totally missed this. I saw the Observer on the soccer field and thought that was his cameo for the episode. There is a whole lot more going on here. I like the Nephilim theory someone posted. I don't know if it will go that way, but I like the whole "good vs. evil" idea. I really think the observers have to be AI or cyborg or some kind of "half breed" they just don't seem completely human. Of course, it may be because they seem to be several places at once...... *Don't you just love these AH-HAH moments?* Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
86. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 3:46 PM EST
""Have you noticed that the hairless guy was on the plane (while Marshall Bowman was going into the lavatory you will notice) and the plane crashed. What happened to him? Any idea? How can he survive? "See the pix I posted to the "There are Watchers Too" album and please tell me what you think. Are these guys just different observers that are more interactive/social? Or a whole new class (the watchers, or Nephilim) from the Bible? In the Area 51 book series, these turn out to be basically the same thing, although they suffer their own internal competions too. I'm currently leaning more towards a group along the lines of the Opus Dei sect (as in the DeVinci Code), which has it's own agents and agendas. Do you find this valuable? |
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bttrfly5 |
87. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 4:10 PM EST
"I'm currently leaning more towards a group along the lines of the Opus Dei sect (as in the DeVinci Code), which has it's own agents and agendas."I hadn't thought of that.....that is an interesting theory too. Well, you know that Broyles is going to turn out to be involved with them somehow. There doesn't seem to be any coincidences on this show and the fact that he is bald........well........ Do you find this valuable? |
flikflik |
88. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 4:45 PM EST
"I'm currently leaning more towards a group along the lines of the Opus Dei sect (as in the DeVinci Code), which has it's own agents and agendas.GOT IT! The Observer (as well as Broyles) are likely members of the ancient Gallic sect Montre Chauve D'hommes. I don't know why we haven't seen this before! As history tells us, this sect (with its crest of Montagne Chauve & a Sword), were heavily involved with the Jesuits during the time when they were almost excommunicated from the Catholic Church for valuing the pursuit of higher learning above their devotion to God. The sect Montre Chauve D'hommes were their research scientists, in effect. ;-) Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
89. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 7:03 PM EST
"GOT IT!Or Freemasonry (Masons). That symbol (the compass & square) for the Masons has appeared several times now. The one occurance I remember is on the side of Loeb's van as his team arrives at Little Hill Field. I have never heard of the MCD sect you mention. I will look into it. Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
90. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 7:11 PM EST
"The Observer (as well as Broyles) are likely members of the ancient Gallic sect Montre Chauve D'hommes..."I think the Observer(s) are something all together different from these (more human) watchers, or the 'sect' guys. Do you find this valuable? |
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flikflik |
91. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 8:19 PM EST
"I have never heard of the MCD sect you mention. I will look into it."i was being silly arjay! translate Montre Chauve D'hommes! hee hee Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
92. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 9 2009, 10:25 PM EST
"i was being silly arjay!You got me. The show about bald men? I took Latin, nothing classical, but I think I get the gist! I owe you... LOL!!! Do you find this valuable? |
galatian |
93. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 10 2009, 4:23 AM EST
If it is related to masons, it would totally ruin it. Masons started with bunch of guys with huge wealth wanted to follow the templar legacy by adapting and overwhelming their rituals. İn real, templars have no connection to the free masons other than the fact that it was myteriously originated from scottland where the remaining templars went underground. I honeslty doubt that some 18th century templar knights had started the masons. It is all about legends and conspiracies and that is what masons wish you would think of them (they even put illimunati into the flavor, what a joke, just because couple of templars went there to seek hideout). I do not take them very seriously at all. Symbolism may have been put in to the show to confuse things.For the bald guy, I really believe that bald guy isnt an organic being but an engineered construct from a parallel universe or future. It is some kind of a machine with a human look. Organic and chemical material in Spicy food may have been its fuel or energy source. I have spotted him in almost all episodes after its initial appearance in the restaurant. I think people behind him is trying to reach to the primary driver of the pattern experiments which is not from this planet either. Do you find this valuable? |
holdyourfire |
94. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 10 2009, 11:09 AM EST
"One thing that I would like to note is that in the episode "The Arrival", Dr. Bishop refers to him as an old friend. Did anyone catch this? It was if they knew one another and instantly recognized by each. "He did know him. At the end Walter told Peter the story about him almost drowning. It was the Observer who saved him. I'm sure the Observer was sent to that particular point in space/time for just that reason. Walter, bad parent even, would definitely recognize the man who saved Peter's life. I also believe that Walter was holding something back about that incident. I think the Observer told Walter he would need his help concealing the device at this moment in space/time. That's why Walter knew to hide it, and why he knew the Observer would come looking for it. Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
95. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 10 2009, 3:16 PM EST
"One thing that I would like to note is that in the episode "The Arrival", Dr. Bishop refers to him as an old friend. Did anyone catch this? It was if they knew one another and instantly recognized by each. Also, did anyone notice when the Observer was writing in his notebook at the beginning of that episode he was writing from right to left in a language that was not a recognizable language as well as the fact that he was writing that complex hieroglyphic language without looking. Also, note the fold-up binoculars - if you take a still frame of that moment and enhance it you will notice the same hieroglyphics as well. And again, who does he call - if he is truly the Observer then he needs to call no one - Massive Dynamics? "They are friends. They were acquainted when the Observer rescued he and Peter from the watery car crash when Peter was a young boy. Walter told Peter he didn't have the strength to rescue him after the car broke thru the ice -due to hypothermia. It was only that the Observer was there to rescue him that Peter survived. However, I've believed Walter is fudging the truth here, that Peter actually died, and Walter, using mind synchronization, kept Peter's consciousness going by placing it into a younger clone. This would also account for Peter's high IQ. It explains why Walter thought he should be fatter when first laying eyes on him after 17 yrs in the asylum. Same thing for checking his eyes when they first re-met. Early cloning problems (think "Dolly" the sheep) often involved pupil malformation. Anyway, Walter did, and still does ,consider the Observer a friend, and he risked his freedom in that episode proving it. Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
96. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 10 2009, 3:22 PM EST
"If it is related to masons, it would totally ruin it. Masons started with bunch of guys with huge wealth wanted to follow the templar legacy by adapting and overwhelming their rituals. İn real, templars have no connection to the free masons other than the fact that it was myteriously originated from scottland where the remaining templars went underground. I honeslty doubt that some 18th century templar knights had started the masons. It is all about legends and conspiracies and that is what masons wish you would think of them (they even put illimunati into the flavor, what a joke, just because couple of templars went there to seek hideout). I do not take them very seriously at all. Symbolism may have been put in to the show to confuse things.You should read the Davinci Code. You'd get a whole new take on how deep conspiracies can go, and how far back. The Area 51 book series, too. They're fiction, but great for conspiracy buffs. I could handle conspiratorial Masons, or some sect like that. It's all for fun anyway, right?! Do you find this valuable? |
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flikflik |
97. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 10 2009, 4:12 PM EST
So anyway, sidetracks aside... back to OBSERVER talk.VERY intrigued by what came up at the Fringe NYCC panel on Sunday. MULTIPLE Observers confirmed. Likely a multiple jumping from plane last week. NEW THEORY: Walter Bishop had a hand in PERFECTING Observer Clones during the time he worked for the US Gov. He took part in the creation/cloning in the lab, clearly using the Original Observer as the "father" of the clones. OO & clones of OO are all connected through shared memory ala the Tank. Shazam! ;-) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
Dr._Bishop |
98. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 10 2009, 6:53 PM EST
"You should read the Davinci Code. You'd get a whole new take on how deep conspiracies can go, and how far back. The Area 51 book series, too. They're fiction, but great for conspiracy buffs"Just want to make sure that you realize the DaVinci Code is also fiction. Do you find this valuable? |
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arjay999 |
99. RE: My theory on the Observer
Feb 10 2009, 7:03 PM EST
""You should read the Davinci Code. You'd get a whole new take on how deep conspiracies can go, and how far back. The Area 51 book series, too. They're fiction, but great for conspiracy buffs";-) Do you find this valuable? |
