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M.F.Luder
M.F.Luder
The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 11:55 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 11:55 AM EDT
While we are currently compiling our segment on "the observer", we would love to hear everyone elses theories/ideas on:

a) Who is he
b) Who does he work for or who is he associated with
c) Is he the only one

and any other thoughts you guys might have.

At some point tonight the Theories page will be updated with Madamecurie and I's Theory(s) on him. Thanks!
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Soundwave13
Soundwave13
1. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 1:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 1:13 PM EDT
Anyone notice the similarities between this guy and the G-Man in the Half Life PC game series? For those who don't play the game: You play as a scientist who worked at the Black Mesa research facility on exotic science. In the first game, using exotic matter, you open a gateway to another dimension and must battle aliens, the militay while trying to escape. The connection to Fringe is that every step of the way there is a unknown dude in a gray suit watching you and at times assisting you in your quest. At the end of the game, you find out that higher powers (more intelligent beings perhaps) are controlling events and this G-Man needs you and your services. Throughtout the sequel and its two episode-like sequels you discover lots of fringe-like science and experiments, and plenty of action. Your character has a female partner whose father worked with the G-Man in the past on many exotic technologies. You encounter zero-point energy, robots, aliens, Portal-technology (wormholes), dark matter, time travel, hidden comunications frequencies and more. Sound familair? 2  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
ejayz
ejayz
2. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 2:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 2:18 PM EDT
I just watched episode 3 "The Gost Network" Towards the end agent Dunham is walking through a train looking for a suspect. She walks by the observer!!! Hes just standing on the train up against a wall...You only see him for a half second but hes there wacthing.. It makes me wonder if he shows up in episodes 1 or 2 since we were not introduced to him until episode 4 why would we be aware of him. I am going to rewatch them and see if I can spot him.
He has to work for whoever is causing the "pattern" But then again according to the good Doctor this guy has been around for a long time....
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ladyscifi
ladyscifi
3. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 2:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 2:51 PM EDT
"While we are currently compiling our segment on "the observer", we would love to hear everyone elses theories/ideas on:

a) Who is he
b) Who does he work for or who is he associated with
c) Is he the only one

and any other thoughts you guys might have.

"
a) He might be an unknown experimentee from the future that was sent to the past to make sure The Pattern doesn't deviate from it's natural course. Or, you know, ManiacVII's brother-in-law .
b) Maybe Walter, or could be Bell or maybe even Peter from the future.
c) They said the pattern was world-wide, so he would have to be in several places in a limited amount, or at the same, time.
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Kaid711
4. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 3:57 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 3:57 PM EDT
"I just watched episode 3 "The Gost Network" Towards the end agent Dunham is walking through a train looking for a suspect. She walks by the observer!!! Hes just standing on the train up against a wall...You only see him for a half second but hes there wacthing.. It makes me wonder if he shows up in episodes 1 or 2 since we were not introduced to him until episode 4 why would we be aware of him. I am going to rewatch them and see if I can spot him.
He has to work for whoever is causing the "pattern" But then again according to the good Doctor this guy has been around for a long time...."
I missed episode 2, and just watched it. After seeing episode 4, I did notice the observer in the hospital when they go to check the 80 year old man baby.
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Cysubtor
5. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 4:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 4:09 PM EDT
"I just watched episode 3 "The Gost Network" Towards the end agent Dunham is walking through a train looking for a suspect. She walks by the observer!!! Hes just standing on the train up against a wall...You only see him for a half second but hes there wacthing.. It makes me wonder if he shows up in episodes 1 or 2 since we were not introduced to him until episode 4 why would we be aware of him. I am going to rewatch them and see if I can spot him.
He has to work for whoever is causing the "pattern" But then again according to the good Doctor this guy has been around for a long time...."
I think he's been in all the episodes so far as after people placed him in both ep2 and 3 there was a theory that it was him walking out side the Massive Dynamic buiding by the Pen Rose clue in the pilot, yet he was wearing a hat, which appears in ep4, so I believe it was him now.
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The8thcircuit
The8thcircuit
6. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 4:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 4:19 PM EDT
The act of observation converts electrons from waves into particles. Theoretically speaking, an observer is necessary for the creation of reality. 11  out of 14 found this valuable. Do you?    
noturstar
noturstar
7. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 4:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 4:54 PM EDT
"The act of observation converts electrons from waves into particles. Theoretically speaking, an observer is necessary for the creation of reality."
Wow... that's heavy.
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M.F.Luder
M.F.Luder
8. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 4:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 4:58 PM EDT
"The act of observation converts electrons from waves into particles. Theoretically speaking, an observer is necessary for the creation of reality."
Is that why it takes two to tango?
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sammyfrank1218
9. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 4:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 4:58 PM EDT
Well is observations are not in english we saw that while he was in the diner. But he speaks english. He does not seem to age since he was there to rescue Peter and Walter and he was also there when the "missle" showed up previously. Not sure if he is fromteh future, out of space, digital, or what but he is definately part of the pattern...a very important part 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
6fingers
6fingers
10. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 8:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 8:58 PM EDT
"He does not seem to age since he was there to rescue Peter and Walter and he was also there when the "missle" showed up previously. "
It's not necessarily the same guy each time. It could be a bunch of clones or a race whose members all look the same.
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madamecurie
11. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 11:13 PM EDT
"The act of observation converts electrons from waves into particles. Theoretically speaking, an observer is necessary for the creation of reality."
Are you quoting the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle?
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M.F.Luder
M.F.Luder
12. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 11:19 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 11:19 PM EDT
"Are you quoting the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle?"
I sounded to me like Heineken's Theory of Unbalance.

;]
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Cheza2920
Cheza2920
13. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 11:37 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 11:37 PM EDT
"The act of observation converts electrons from waves into particles. Theoretically speaking, an observer is necessary for the creation of reality."
Sort of, if I tree falls in the forest and there is no one around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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madamecurie
14. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 11:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 11:40 PM EDT
Yes, it does, but you don't know where it is. (HUP) ;) 0  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Cheza2920
Cheza2920
15. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 11:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 11:46 PM EDT
LOL I dont know about that, I mean does sound exist without a receiver? Granted, an item exist rather you can see it or not, but I think sound is different, without that connection between the receiver does it exist? Do you find this valuable?    

madamecurie
16. RE: The Observer
Oct 1 2008, 11:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 1 2008, 11:59 PM EDT
Sound is just waves of particles bumping into each other until it reaches your ear which will interpret the impact, same thing with light photons entering the retna which is also a receiver. When we talk about existence we say the object has mass and disturbs space time. Everything no matter how far apart it is from you affects you and exerts gravity though extremely weak in most cases. What I think 8th circuit was referring to was that the act of observing an electron which requires particle collisions would change the particles' location which we can't know. 6  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
Cheza2920
Cheza2920
17. RE: The Observer
Oct 2 2008, 12:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2008, 12:04 AM EDT
"Sound is just waves of particles bumping into each other until it reaches your ear which will interpret the impact, same thing with light photons entering the retna which is also a receiver. When we talk about existence we say the object has mass and disturbs space time. Everything no matter how far apart it is from you affects you and exerts gravity though extremely weak in most cases. What I think 8th circuit was referring to was that the act of observing an electron which requires particle collisions would change the particles' location which we can't know."
*long, slow blink*

Did I mention I almost flunked out of all my science classes ever?
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madamecurie
18. RE: The Observer
Oct 2 2008, 12:12 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2008, 12:12 AM EDT
Think of a pool table in a pitch black room. You know where the cueball is and you hit it with the cue stick. The ball hits the others and you hear the impact but you have no idea where the others went because you can't see, therefore you know they exist and have mass and you knew their location until the cueball hit them. Now you have no idea where they are so you can't observe them anymore. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
The8thcircuit
The8thcircuit
19. RE: The Observer
Oct 2 2008, 11:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 2 2008, 11:04 AM EDT
"I sounded to me like Heineken's Theory of Unbalance.

;]"
Are you implying that quantum physicists are drunks, or just me? LOL!
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