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TheMarkedMouse
TheMarkedMouse
Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 1:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 1:59 AM EDT
In the final scene, Walter claims to be accidentally speaking numbers out loud while he's trying to sleep. Perhaps it's a code he's reading into Peter's mind, which plays into the untold story of Peter's hinted-at medical history.

The numbers, meanwhile, were:
0 1 1 2 3 8 13 21 34 55
1 2 33 3 77 2 21 6 110 6  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
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TheMarkedMouse
TheMarkedMouse
1. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 2:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 2:01 AM EDT
The first string of numbers Walter speaks, "0 1 1 2 3 8 13 21 34 55," are clearly the Fibonacci sequence.

But the 2nd string of numbers, "1 2 33 3 77 2 21 6 110," is unclear. Do you find this valuable?    
TheMarkedMouse
TheMarkedMouse
2. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 2:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 2:04 AM EDT
And note that the Fibonacci sequence is missing a number: 5 Do you find this valuable?    
MidgetMac206
MidgetMac206
3. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 2:04 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 2:04 AM EDT
Alright, so. I realized that in the first set of numbers, the Fibonacci sequence, the number 5 is missing. Maybe the number 5 is significant in someway. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

julienaclim
4. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 8:48 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 8:48 AM EDT
The second set of number look like the mRNA Sequence decoded into sets of Nucleotides. But there are only 20 aminoacids. . .hmmmmm
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julienaclim
5. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 8:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 8:54 AM EDT
Sorry that sequence is starting to look more like neurobiology. Glial Cells broken down into a specific code for transmission in the brain. Hmmm could it be an altered code for mind control? And soooo my interest in this carbon copy show begins to peak once more. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

julienaclim
6. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 9:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 9:18 AM EDT
2 is syntrophin 110 is KGluconate >>>Is this a glutamane receptor numeric sequence. . .enzymes. . .etc?? Goggle it if you have the time. . .it's very interesting. This is quatum or quantal. Would like to know if anyone finds more on this sequence. Adregenic receptors? Anyone? 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

Caddy42
7. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 10:54 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 10:54 AM EDT
I would also like to point out that more than once in the first episode Walter made a physical jab at Peter, trying to assess his health. He also commented about Peter's blood pressure/hypertension.
I am curious as to why that particular medical information was left out of the file in the first place. A unique medical issue would be worth mentioning in either Walter or Peter's file. It also seems that Peter is not aware of his medical situation, as he doesn't seem to realize why Walter is commenting so much on his health. Do you find this valuable?    
b_alasdair
b_alasdair
8. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 12:14 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 12:14 PM EDT
Could it be that we're seeing the second set incorrectly? Maybe it's supposed to be 1, 233, 377, 221, 610.
But that's a big maybe. Do you find this valuable?    
LiquidPeppermint
LiquidPeppermint
9. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 1:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 1:36 PM EDT
Jesus, you're right. The fibonacci sequence IS missing a number. So is pi as his garage combo. 31459 the combo. Pi is 314159. 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
TheMarkedMouse
TheMarkedMouse
10. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 2:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 2:15 PM EDT
"I would also like to point out that more than once in the first episode Walter made a physical jab at Peter, trying to assess his health. He also commented about Peter's blood pressure/hypertension.
I am curious as to why that particular medical information was left out of the file in the first place. A unique medical issue would be worth mentioning in either Walter or Peter's file. It also seems that Peter is not aware of his medical situation, as he doesn't seem to realize why Walter is commenting so much on his health."
As to why the medical info was not in the file... perhaps someone high up removed it.

Also, notice that Broyles is happy - even pleased - to see Peter near the start of the episode. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
TheMarkedMouse
TheMarkedMouse
11. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 2:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 2:28 PM EDT
My new theory:

Based on Walter's lab notes here: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YPCf8JFgUdI/SNC-DPCWOuI/AAAAAAAAHrc/4J8k04f7vxE/s1600-h/Walters102Notes.jpg

He says: "The suspect's chronological and biological ages would sharply diverge. He might have passed only 12 years since his birth, yet appear in his thirties or even older. His own parents - supposing he has them - must have lamented the abrupt passage of childhood."

Walter continues: "Just as I have."

And now the kicker: "The better part of TWO DECADES, gone in the blink of an eye, and all at once the sullen chubby child [meaning Peter, who was larger until the year before his senior year] is a sullen grown man."

the better part of 2 decades = less than 20 years...

And with Peter being around 30 years old... 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
Norligh
Norligh
12. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 2:59 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 2:59 PM EDT
Call me simple but I would think this would refer to the 17 years he has spent institutionalized? 2  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    
TheMarkedMouse
TheMarkedMouse
13. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 3:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 3:16 PM EDT
"Call me simple but I would think this would refer to the 17 years he has spent institutionalized?"
You're likely right, though. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
TheMarkedMouse
TheMarkedMouse
14. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 3:17 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 3:17 PM EDT
"You're likely right, though."
Wait a sec... if Peter is around 30, then Walter would have institutionalized when Peter was 13... this is not "a year before senior year." 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
LiquidPeppermint
LiquidPeppermint
15. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 3:23 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 3:23 PM EDT
Unless his IQ of 190 put him ahead in school 3  out of 3 found this valuable. Do you?    

Caddy42
16. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 6:27 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 6:27 PM EDT
The idea that he is a "clone" (I guess that's what we're calling them) is unlikely given the evidence. It seems like a straining reach to connect the small amount of dots we have. Perhaps (like in Lost) things are mentioned that aren't really addressed again right away, it seems too simple to have him be a clone. The thought of all of that being so tidily wrapped up in the first non-pilot episode seems highly un-JJ Abrams.

I think Walter is referring to missing Peter's childhood while he was always in the lab, then committed. I'm sure Peter would know if he(Peter) had to harvest pituitary glands. Also, he has been with Olivia and Walter for awhile now and no killing and harvesting going on there. And no advanced aging.

My suspicion is that there was a complication while Peter was in the womb, or an infant, and Walter used technology from a project he was working on to "heal" him. This "healing" may put him at risk for something later. I think Walter knows more about the pattern than he is saying; like maybe he knows what's coming and the risks it poses to Peter. Do you find this valuable?    

madamecurie
17. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 6:41 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 6:41 PM EDT
It's possible that he is a clone who grew naturally as his son with no hormone interference, hence no need to harvest pituitary glands. Do you find this valuable?    

WolfgalX
18. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 8:40 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 8:40 PM EDT
Hmm. Well, if he is a clone, I have a question. Of who? His dad? Where did they get the uh...pituitary glands? Did I get that right? Wow, so many questions. Here's another one: What if there's more than one clone? I'm thinking of a thousand classic sci-fi episode ideas they could do if that's true. I feel out of my league with this stuff. Do you find this valuable?    
titusrevised
titusrevised
19. RE: Peter's "medical history"; the numbers
Sep 17 2008, 9:58 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 17 2008, 9:58 PM EDT
I don't why they had to harvest pituitary glands in the first place. With such advanced scientific knowledge they should be able to grow organs in the lab. Or synthesize the necessary hormones. I mean we're on the verge of organ printing right now. And we can certainly synthesize a good deal of hormones (such as insulin, estrogen).
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