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"And then Olivia blows the wife away. Who carries the biggest gun? Olivia! "

I couldn't help but laugh a little during "The Night of Desirable Objects" when Olivia almost shot Peter. He's lucky she was not on top of her game. If she had been she would have drilled him through the forehead! However, I guess if she'd really been on top of her game she would have fired wildly at a sound. I wonder if that supersonic hearing will come back again, or if it was strictly a temporary result of crossing over and her head injury?

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Alot of you are saying "THE" other universe! There is not just ours and the alternate! I am not getting this from the show but from the principals involved, and the minor knowledge I have of theories of alternate universes. Effectively there are an infinity number of alternate universes. For every decision that is made the universe splits in two, because there are two possible decisions, and therefore two possible outcomes! I do believe int he show they are mainly concerned with one of the alternate universes, possibly the one that is closest in reality to ours! It is also quite possible that some of the other universes have already been destroyed, possibly from Nuclear Holocaust or some natural disaster, or anothre world war.

Now with the knowledge we have recently learned about the Observers, and the fact that we know Walter tried to or did create some time of time travel devise, some of the scenes we have seen could easily be a future event, or a completely different universe!

I am begining to get angry with Walter... He needs to speak up, it is obvious that he wrote the ZFT "Bible" and he clearly knows soemthing about what is about to happen, or what needs to happen/be done, and he continues to keep quiet! The only reason I can find behind this, is that he knows he is somehow responsible, and feels tremendous guilt! I still believe though if he would just tell them what he knows, he could help them, and possible stop it or correct it!

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"Yes, I noticed that she never invited them either! The Peter/Olivia part of me was so depressed at that! But I can see that she is guarded, very private, though I keep hoping for this season that we can see them, you know, eating somewhere together. That's why it was so fun to see them talking late at night in her hotel room in Dream Logic and she let him in! thank heavensDoes Olivia ever get to go out - remember Dreamscape, when she was going to the party, and then Broyles called her. That's the last time we've seen her going out. That's why it was so good to see her with Rachel and Ella, because we saw another - warmer, I agree very much - side to her, softness and kindness and laughter that she hides when she's in FBI mode. It was nice to see Olivia rounded out! But, like you and I said on the Olivia ability thread, I think she is in shock (like the Anna Torv interview today), and she's grieving another death. "

Yes, I remember that scene in "The Dreamscape". It was nice to see that she had another side that dresses up for parties and chats with friends, even though it got spoiled. Must be almost impossible for her to have a social life.

I liked the scene in "Dream Logic" at the hotel when they talked, each in their university t-shirts. I don't know about a Peter/Olivia romance. There's more than a hint of a sibling relationship between the two, and a romance might be very awkward. If the producers do decide to go that way, then I hope they don't drag it out. These are two single, consenting adults, and if they want to be together then there shouldn't be anything stopping them.

Wasn't it great to see Ella on the "August" episode? I was so pleased, and we found out an answer: Rachel and Ella are still staying with Olivia. Loved the scene at the end on the roller coaster, but how ominous were those last lines from the Observers?!

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Sounds good to me. Yes, real creepy on Cern, especially with all those bucks they have
invested in it. But, they will get it sorted out eventually.

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"Thanks for the conformation, lucifah, so its not my imagination. Bad looking dude, reminds
mo of something I've seen in some movie. Now if I can find out what those double
pyramids, triangles on the leaf glyphs mean. In this show their there for a reason, not by
mistake. Did'nt notice them last season, or on the computer, but as soon as I put the
Blu Rays in the old Sony XBR, there they were. As I said, on this show they are there for a
reason."

No probs :) The symbol on the leaf is the Greek letter delta its used in Maths an Physics I believe, There's a symbol on the frog glyph aswell, the Greek letter - Phi, thats used for a few different subjects too. Mostly its used to describe "The Golden Ration". When it comes to the smoke glyph I dunno what it means yet, I see something different each time.

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Great... now I won't sleep until thursday comes !

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"I just put up F,J,M, and Q into another page on this site... http://fringewiki.fox.com/page/Fringe+Glyph+Code+Key"

On closer inspection glyghs for F, Q, X and Z have not been shown during any episodes yet as in they dont have a single letter designation yet. There are also unknown glyphs on the countdown to next episode widget (http://www.fox.com/fringe/features/widgets.htm) and the there is more than one of everything page (http://www.fox.com/fringe/thereismore). Each glyphset has glyphs and braille, each also plays through in a slideshow. All the single glyphs however are different letters (or numbers?), they all have three glowing dots around them and the only consistent location of any dots is the location of the smallest dot, even though all the dots move around slightly only the smallest stays in its quadrant. So for translation of each glyph I believe the small dot is the important one. By using this method some of these glyphs already have a single letter meaning. What I'm saying is that there are 4 glyphs of the 13 glyphs from both widgets that have NOT been given a letter and coincidently 4 glyphs are required to complete our Glyph Letter Alphabet. Maybe just maybe those widget glyphs are the last four letters!?

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